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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by sharno »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #108
kossTKR wrote: post #83

As a sidenote has anyone else been surprised by the extreme political iron-fist and omnipresent media control to side with Israel? When talking to colleagues, family, and even my Israeli friends there's a plurality of opinion, sadness, serious discussions, but when looking at mainstream media, even relatively moderate it seems like everyone and their grandma is screaming for bombs and are "tired of the stupid poor pa…

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If you were taken a hostage by terrorists, the government is trying to free you, would you prefer them to:

- kill the terrorists and you OR

- stay with the terrorists until the government figures out a peaceful way to free you first before attempting to kill the terrorists?

Another Q: If you were living in a certain city, they found out that there are terrorists around your house, maybe they dug a tunnel close to you, would you prefer:

- the army carpet bombing the area?

- the army attempty by other means to get rid of the terrorists?

* A hypothetical questions, not wishing you any harm

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by tamimio »

> I had to give up any passwords to my devices. It was a criminal offence not to do this.

Veracrypt hidden partition, plausible deniability, use it.

> They asked how considered my tweets were

That’s exactly the reason why, he definitely made a tweet that put him in some arbitrary list that feeds into an official “anti-terrorism” list, believe it or not, there’s a whole business and scheme on adding people on these lists and cancel them just because they tweet something, and sometimes, even taking an out-of-context and make an article about it somewhere, and use that as a “reference” to cancel you and put you in many hidden lists. Besides what some are mentioning here about privacy act and what not, I would go in a different approach, these lists should be searchable online just like any public records, and you have the right to challenge it in court if someone put your name in there and sue for it, but keeping it secret meaning there’s a hidden entity actively blackmailing individuals for their thoughts, the “CI/CD” for these lists goes like this: article about you (fake or real won’t matter) => some unknown list maintained by shady organization => feeding into an official country anti-terrorism list => feeding into a regional one like EU or similar, leading to travel ban, banks ban, etc. and none of them will question the source of such list.

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by hulitu »

kypro wrote: post #4

> I was detained under Section 7 of the Terrorism Act > I was not arrested but detained, and therefore had no right to a lawyer. > I had no right to remain silent. I had to give full and accurate information in response to questions. It was a criminal offence to withhold any relevant information. > I had to give up any passwords to my devices. It was a criminal offence not to do this. This is what I find so terrifyin…

He shall be happy that he lives in a democracy. /s

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by xdennis »

Cenk wrote: post #51
dgfitz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I don’t understand, how is it considered resistance? I was under the impression they were the aggressor, no? Why would the aggressor be in a position of resistance? Would this be akin to claiming Russia is in “armed resistance” after throwing the first punch? Aren’t those two things at odds with each other? Edit: typo

It could be considered resistance to the ongoing occupation of Gaza and the war crimes that Israel commits there (according to Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B’Tselem etc)?

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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by Belopolye »

Tao3300 wrote: post #249
Belopolye wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this situation he tweeted something about supporting any of the actions that Hamas makes. > But in the coming Gaza genocide, every act of armed resistance by Hamas and Hezbollah will have my support.

IMO, in light of that comment, this is a non-story. Though what they did was stupid: acting like a fascist towards someone like this tends to undermine whatever position you're trying to establish simply by making you look like the bad/worse guys.

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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by marcus_holmes »

dash2 wrote: post #143
marcus_holmes wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK is very worried about Scottish Independence. Mr Murray is a very vocal supporter of that, and an active figurehead in the independence movement. I don't know, but I'm assuming that his support of Hamas is a nice pretext for the British Establishment to have another pop at him. As we predicted when the UK proposed these monstrous laws: they are being abused to go after anyone who annoys the establishment. That'…

I'm from the UK, and my instant reaction is that this is an evidence-free conspiracy-theory. If you have anything to back it up, other than vibes, feel free to say so.

> If you have anything to back it up, other than vibes, feel free to say so.

Just read the history of his recent legal hassles, which are a farcical misuse of legislation intended for other purposes. He went to jail for (basically) pointing out all the flaws in the prosecution's case against Alex Salmond.

As the old joke goes; It's not paranoia if they actually are out to get you ;)

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by jkaplowitz »

rmbyrro wrote: post #121
kypro wrote: post #4

> I was detained under Section 7 of the Terrorism Act > I was not arrested but detained, and therefore had no right to a lawyer. > I had no right to remain silent. I had to give full and accurate information in response to questions. It was a criminal offence to withhold any relevant information. > I had to give up any passwords to my devices. It was a criminal offence not to do this. This is what I find so terrifyin…

Governments took advantage of the extreme fear created after the 9/11 attacks to pass these absurd laws. I don't think we can call them "laws", because are clearly against the most fundamental values of any democracy. No country is free anymore. Not even the US, which enjoys bolstering itself as "the free world". Any freedom you enjoy in a democratic state nowadays is merely circumstantial and can disappear instantly…

I agree with you in general, but regarding this specific phrase in this specific context:

> Governments took advantage of the extreme fear created after the 9/11 attacks to pass these absurd laws.

Unless I misunderstand the legislative history, the law that was used here (Schedule 7 to the Terrorism Act 2000) dates from July 2000, so before 9/11.

Still part of the same trend as what happened after 9/11, of course, but we shouldn’t pretend 9/11 was the beginning of this, especially not in the UK.

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by ClassyJacket »

qingcharles wrote: post #204

I was once investigated for terrorism by Special Branch in the UK in about 1996. They came to my parent's house at a weekend to question me. I'd just happened to have gone home for the weekend to see my folks. I was running perhaps the largest warez site on the Internet at the time, so I thought I was super busted. The detective sat me down and said to me, "What do you know about a plot to kill the President?" and I…

Sounds like he was obviously framed.

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Post by quirino »

Condition1952 wrote: post #13

>I had to give up any passwords to my devices. It was a criminal offence not to do this. It is a real atrocity that most devices are unable to lie for us when a wrong password is typed and create a mock profile to waste time

You can absolutely do this with Xiaomi phones. You can set up a second password in order to access what is virtually a completely different phone.

You can even set a different fingerprint so that different fingers unlock different profiles.

The feature is called Second Space

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