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Post by calfuris » Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 11:41 PM UTC

aaplok wrote: post #127

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Well, a major difference is that you can discover a GUI and find solutions organically, while the shell is pretty useless without prior knowledge. Even as an experienced user, you need to know to put research into those issues.

I usually struggle with GUIs and I find the concept of discoverability awful. Having to randomly click through tons of menus until you discover the right place is frustrating. I use MS Word maybe twice a month, and every time I go through that ritual of clicking through several tabs just to be able to discover how to save a file. If I used it more often I certainly would remember, but then it's no longer about discov…

Post by runjake » Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 11:55 PM UTC

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I never imagined myself using a Linux desktop everyday, but I don't want to pay Apple for 64gb of RAM and an acceptable number of monitors via my docking station, and Microsoft is just becoming terrible. Going to have to figure out what to switch to... Yikes!

I use a $300 second hand W540 maxed out on RAM (32G, I don't think it would take 16G modules but I haven't looked into that, this is sufficient) with two external monitors attached. Uses a tiny bit of power compared to the desktop that it replaced (when I switched the house over to solar power I did a conservation exercise first and my desktop was one of the worst offenders) and everything works as far as I can tell.…

Post by plorkyeran » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 12:41 AM UTC

hbn wrote: post #117

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> I wish I wasn't tied to Gmail because it means I can't really use any other clients if I want instant notifications. what? it's supported IMAP IDLE for longer than some of the posters in HN have been alive. > I'd kinda hope regulators would step in on something like that for a case like Gmail where they're practically the default email provider for most people. ... you chose to use some random company's domain for…

Look - I don't know much about email standards but I know if I try to use Gmail on the Apple Mail client it doesn't give me notifications. Everyone I've talked to has the same issue, they get a dumping of notifications once per week with every email they got in the past 7 days. No solutions to be found online either, if you have one I'd be more than happy to hear it. > ... you chose to use some random company's domai…

Post by aaplok » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 1:24 AM UTC

calfuris wrote: post #131

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I usually struggle with GUIs and I find the concept of discoverability awful. Having to randomly click through tons of menus until you discover the right place is frustrating. I use MS Word maybe twice a month, and every time I go through that ritual of clicking through several tabs just to be able to discover how to save a file. If I used it more often I certainly would remember, but then it's no longer about discov…

There's nothing wrong with the concept of discoverability. Having the capability of discovering how to do thing X without referring to documentation is fine. The problem is when users are forced to rely on it because the documentation is trash or nonexistent. That does seem to be a trend and I share your frustration with it, but discoverability and good documentation can (and should) coexist.

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 2:17 AM UTC

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I use a $300 second hand W540 maxed out on RAM (32G, I don't think it would take 16G modules but I haven't looked into that, this is sufficient) with two external monitors attached. Uses a tiny bit of power compared to the desktop that it replaced (when I switched the house over to solar power I did a conservation exercise first and my desktop was one of the worst offenders) and everything works as far as I can tell.…

I have a recent XPS 15 with nvidia graphics, 64gb of ram and 2tb ssd. That cost me about $1,500 including upgraded drives myself. But spec out a 14" Macbook Pro this way and it's easily 3,800-4,000. I don't need something second hand cheap, but I don't want to pay $4,000 either.