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Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Off topic but who thought naming your site 404 and creating branding with slashes and modal call to actions on page load was a good idea?

I almost immediately closed the page thinking the link was bad and I was seeing a 404 status page, because this is the shitty UX on first load on mobile: https://imgur.com/IYDWWBp

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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On a tangent to the main point, I like the subtle acknowledgement of our new reality - or at least of the one of many sudden shifts in common software tooling: > Google Translate translates the phrase to “Praise be to God.” ChatGPT translates it to "Praise be to Allah" or "All praise is due to Allah." LLMs turned out to be pretty good at translating, and ChatGPT (especially GPT-4) went straight into competing toe-to-…

I've been playing with it a bit... the other day I asked ChatGPT the name of a certain animal in Urdu and it with complete confidence threw the name of a fruit at me. That said ChatGPT is better at picking up dialect nuances. I can ask it to tell me how to say something in Egyptian Arabic, vs most translation tools will use Modern Standard.

As always, the immediate question: ChatGPT-3.5 (the free version) or ChatGPT-4 (the paid version)? Just saying “ChatGPT” doesn’t mean much.

It’s not very interesting at all to hear about ChatGPT-3.5 making mistakes, and an unlabeled reference to “ChatGPT” usually seems to mean ChatGPT-3.5. ChatGPT-4 is an entirely different level of product.

ChatGPT-4 can make mistakes too, and those cases are much more interesting since it is among the best LLMs on the market, so it is more representative of what current LLMs can (and can’t) do.

For reference, here is ChatGPT-4 discussing this: https://chat.openai.com/share/f67600f5-7d36-49b7-b136-f77dcb...

I don’t know that language, so I can’t say how accurate it is. For the languages that are represented well in its training data, ChatGPT-4 seems capable of really good translations.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the great march of return was in 2018 - 2019. the idf committed some brutal war crimes against the protestors. watch this video if you'd like to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s i shared the answer to expose the bias of chatgpt. it interjected "including hamas" into the answer and said there were "fatalities on both sides".

> it interjected "including hamas" into the answer and said there were "fatalities on both sides". Are either of these statements false?

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Off topic but who thought naming your site 404 and creating branding with slashes and modal call to actions on page load was a good idea? I almost immediately closed the page thinking the link was bad and I was seeing a 404 status page, because this is the shitty UX on first load on mobile: https://imgur.com/IYDWWBp

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the great march of return was in 2018 - 2019. the idf committed some brutal war crimes against the protestors. watch this video if you'd like to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s i shared the answer to expose the bias of chatgpt. it interjected "including hamas" into the answer and said there were "fatalities on both sides".

I really know nothing about this conflict, but when I check the source for that youtube video I find it is put together by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_Martin If you're looking for objective facts, this might not be it.

Why do you say that?

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the great march of return was in 2018 - 2019. the idf committed some brutal war crimes against the protestors. watch this video if you'd like to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s i shared the answer to expose the bias of chatgpt. it interjected "including hamas" into the answer and said there were "fatalities on both sides".

> it interjected "including hamas" into the answer and said there were "fatalities on both sides". Are either of these statements false?

Wikipedia cites the Jerusalem Post saying that there was one fatality, and the Human Rights Council saying there were zero, on the Israel side. The same HRC report[1] reports 183 fatalities. This is a case where there is a broad gulf between "truth" and "not false." And I'm inclined to think that "fatalities," plural, was a one-sided affair.

[1] https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/HRBodies...

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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I think the average person doesn't understand at all what level of accuracy they can expect from AI tools. That is why you have professors relying on ChatGPT to tell them if a student cheated using ChatGPT. HN readers already know not to trust it of course.

I almost turned into a human pretzel earlier from the amount of cringe I got from seeing a post on LinkedIn about all the wonderful things ChatGPT can do to make life easier for HR, including "detecting hidden bias" in employee communications. Most of the responses to the post were positive and I'm sure we'll see a lot more of this kind of thing, where people's lives are altered and reputations ruined, due to unreali…

I'm extrapolating a bit, not having read the post, but this reminds me of the old days when they used polygraphs in hiring. Until that was made illegal in the US because it's basically pseudoscience.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been playing with it a bit... the other day I asked ChatGPT the name of a certain animal in Urdu and it with complete confidence threw the name of a fruit at me. That said ChatGPT is better at picking up dialect nuances. I can ask it to tell me how to say something in Egyptian Arabic, vs most translation tools will use Modern Standard.

As always, the immediate question: ChatGPT-3.5 (the free version) or ChatGPT-4 (the paid version)? Just saying “ChatGPT” doesn’t mean much. It’s not very interesting at all to hear about ChatGPT-3.5 making mistakes, and an unlabeled reference to “ChatGPT” usually seems to mean ChatGPT-3.5. ChatGPT-4 is an entirely different level of product. ChatGPT-4 can make mistakes too, and those cases are much more interesting s…

I was using the free version so 3.5.

I've never heard of titli makhi before, but have heard of bher from multiple sources. I don't know definitely (as in I haven't looked it up in a formal dictionary) but colloquially in my dialect bher is more correct.

Also worth noting that GPT-4 used the incorrect letter representing the R. Google translate correctly provides: بهڑ

Thanks for the added context though, it's super interesting.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really know nothing about this conflict, but when I check the source for that youtube video I find it is put together by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_Martin If you're looking for objective facts, this might not be it.

Why do you say that?

She started as a "inside job" 9/11 truther, then worked at RT for a few years, and is now actively covering Palestine from an explicitly pro-Palestinian point of view.

She also works on the "Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions" anti-Israel movement.

Maybe she has valuable footage or a valuable viewpoint or just an opinion you're curious about, and that's fine. Just know what you're getting.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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This is the sort of thing that could cause people to lose friends or jobs. This is exactly the sort of thing we should be worried about with AI. I feel like machine translations like those on Instagram should come with a disclaimer (in bold, not fine print!).

> This is the sort of thing that could cause people to lose friends or jobs.

Not if in the receiving end there is a Palestinian, unfortunately people are not made equal

Edit: I misunderstood that the person potentially loosing their job is the one that made the mistake.

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