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Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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On a tangent to the main point, I like the subtle acknowledgement of our new reality - or at least of the one of many sudden shifts in common software tooling:

> Google Translate translates the phrase to “Praise be to God.” ChatGPT translates it to "Praise be to Allah" or "All praise is due to Allah."

LLMs turned out to be pretty good at translating, and ChatGPT (especially GPT-4) went straight into competing toe-to-toe with Google Translate itself.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Performed a quick search for ex-cia working at instagram and came up with a ton of hits related to general information about ex-government agents working in key positions at many tech firms. https://start.duckduckgo.com/?q=ex+cia+working+at+instagram&... I'm not saying this translation error is related to that. I'm also not saying it isn't.

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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On a tangent to the main point, I like the subtle acknowledgement of our new reality - or at least of the one of many sudden shifts in common software tooling: > Google Translate translates the phrase to “Praise be to God.” ChatGPT translates it to "Praise be to Allah" or "All praise is due to Allah." LLMs turned out to be pretty good at translating, and ChatGPT (especially GPT-4) went straight into competing toe-to-…

I like it when arabic phrases are changed to be more palatable to western know-nothings. Ask the guy saying "alhamdulillah" if he means Allah or if he means God.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average person sees it as "AI" like we think of from the movies. It's a machine brain that can think and communicate. In reality it's just a really good text generator that's really good at sounding confident.

Oversimplifying things doesn’t help anyone here. People don’t understand the limitations of AI/LLMs because it wasn’t a normal part of their lives until recently. They don’t need to understand how it works to understand that it has limitations and it’s going to be occasionally wrong. The average person is well aware software isn’t perfect, things break all the time. This is no different. It’s not a leap to think peop…

That's a very good point. There's precedent for it too.

Humans themselves are black boxes too, and yet almost everyone grows to have a good handle on limitation of individuals, both in general and specific to contexts and individuals one encounters. It's not just peer-level understanding - parents quickly learn to understand the limitations and failure modes of newborns, and maintain that understanding as their children grow.

Now human-human understanding is cheating, since we all share the same hardware architecture. But we have no problem with getting a grasp on animal behavior and limits either. Really all it takes is enough personal observation and interaction. It's like we're wired for "getting a feel" for complex systems over time.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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more outrage bait from 404media.... It's bad sure, but this has been possible/happening with user-sourced translation 'correction' systems for years like in Google Translate. Anyone could have influenced the translation to include those phrases. And similar effects have been absorbed into automated engines

Everything I've seen so far has been absolute garbage. Wonder if anyone from Buzzfeed is involved - similar writing style

The founders come from Vice so yeah, hyperbole abound.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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On a tangent to the main point, I like the subtle acknowledgement of our new reality - or at least of the one of many sudden shifts in common software tooling: > Google Translate translates the phrase to “Praise be to God.” ChatGPT translates it to "Praise be to Allah" or "All praise is due to Allah." LLMs turned out to be pretty good at translating, and ChatGPT (especially GPT-4) went straight into competing toe-to-…

I like it when arabic phrases are changed to be more palatable to western know-nothings. Ask the guy saying "alhamdulillah" if he means Allah or if he means God.

Isn't this the usual "accurate translation vs. localization" issue? There was a more poetic name for it, IIRC. It's an old problem.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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On a tangent to the main point, I like the subtle acknowledgement of our new reality - or at least of the one of many sudden shifts in common software tooling: > Google Translate translates the phrase to “Praise be to God.” ChatGPT translates it to "Praise be to Allah" or "All praise is due to Allah." LLMs turned out to be pretty good at translating, and ChatGPT (especially GPT-4) went straight into competing toe-to-…

I've been playing with it a bit... the other day I asked ChatGPT the name of a certain animal in Urdu and it with complete confidence threw the name of a fruit at me.

That said ChatGPT is better at picking up dialect nuances. I can ask it to tell me how to say something in Egyptian Arabic, vs most translation tools will use Modern Standard.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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On a tangent to the main point, I like the subtle acknowledgement of our new reality - or at least of the one of many sudden shifts in common software tooling: > Google Translate translates the phrase to “Praise be to God.” ChatGPT translates it to "Praise be to Allah" or "All praise is due to Allah." LLMs turned out to be pretty good at translating, and ChatGPT (especially GPT-4) went straight into competing toe-to-…

I've been playing with it a bit... the other day I asked ChatGPT the name of a certain animal in Urdu and it with complete confidence threw the name of a fruit at me. That said ChatGPT is better at picking up dialect nuances. I can ask it to tell me how to say something in Egyptian Arabic, vs most translation tools will use Modern Standard.

Which animal?
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