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Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by mcpackieh »

JimDabell wrote: post #334
EmilioMartinez wrote: post #222

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Makes me wonder what's the worst possible phrasing "Master Python and Pandas, make them work for you, attack new challanges, earn good money"

> Makes me wonder what's the worst possible phrasing I got some very strange looks when buying one particular book back in the days when physical books were the norm. It was only after I got home that I realised a book called “Python Cookbook” gives an entirely different impression to non-programmers.

Mmmm, I know rattlesnakes are said to be a pretty good meal. I wonder if pythons and boas taste any good. Those big snakes might make a delicious feast.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by coding123 »

dspillett wrote: post #152
random_coder wrote: post #118

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What's wrong with talking about animals anyway? Truly bizarre.

Depends in what context you are talking about the animals. Trade in animals is covered by a number of laws¹ intended to protect them, and fb has a blanket ban on advertising trading animals. This is a perfectly logical thing to declare wrong. What has happened here, most likely, is that a right thing (selling courses about Python and Pandas, the technical things of that name not the animals) has been misidentified as…

That department should upgrade to a modern LLM which would do a better job than many humans in understanding the context of python and pandas.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by lainga »

kmeisthax wrote: post #352
skeletal88 wrote: post #112

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In 1984 they don't have laws, only crimes, so whatever you do, you have to guess if it is illegal and will be punished or not. It is on purpose to keep the population in constant fear

Big Tech went in so hard on right-libertarianism that they reinvented Maoism.

True Marxism is called that by / the extreme left. / Occasionally the true left calls / a spade a spade and tells the left it’s right.

https://www.opera-arias.com/adams/nixon-in-china/libretto/

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by mcpackieh »

isleyaardvark wrote: post #303
quickthrower2 wrote: post #142

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Selling pets should be fine?

There are many laws regarding pet ownership and for good reason, if not involving an invasive species there's also animal cruelty issues. Pandas and other exotic animals need specialized care which a typical vet will not be able to provide. And that's if they aren't dangerous. Then there's the puppy mills, which is a huge issue on its own.

All existing pandas are owned by the PRC so the chance of somebody selling a panda for real, vs selling some sort of panda themed toy/book/etc, is virtually nil. No human would make this mistake; their filter is braindead.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by NoGravitas »

jerf wrote: post #321
ggybdese wrote: post #317

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> they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. While I understand, what's the alternative you propose? I have seen HN threads ridiculing some govt website for being outdated or not fixing the latest vulnerability or not using the latest version etc. Or if they do allocate a bigger chunk of their budget for tech and there will be unreasonable HN threads about how one user feels he/she could build it…

"While I understand, what's the alternative you propose?" Simple: Strike the word "only". It's not that hard to post to several sites and also your own. I'd like some RSS on the main site too. It's not that hard for an individual and it's even easier for an organization with thousands of employees.

Publish on your own site, syndicate elsewhere.

(https://indieweb.org/POSSE)

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

bombcar wrote: post #302
concordDance wrote: post #225

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The spammers can produce far more cases than the humans can review. Welcome to the world of automation.

You can put review on a system requiring additional ID/information/escrow payment. A genuine business will be willing to put down some information and a cash payment for a review; spammers won’t have the time or resources. You run the risk of a perverse incentive to trigger it for revenue but make the fee refundable or something.

Can you? I don't know that I've seen anyone try, but I would expect the PR blowback for "pay us $1 to appeal" to be worse than "you're just not allowed to appeal".

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Rebuff5007 »

What is the point of having all the "greatest" AI scientists in the world if you can't solve meaningful problems of these systems when used in production...

This is a product failure, an engineering failure, a research failure, etc. etc. I don't mean to pick on just this one exampl as there are instances in all of big tech [1].

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveil...

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by pdimitar »

concordDance wrote: post #225
sideshowb wrote: post #144

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Or they could, you know, spend some of their billions on employing humans to review these cases.

The spammers can produce far more cases than the humans can review. Welcome to the world of automation.

This is a solved problem for a long time now: require upfront payment, even if it's just $1.00. Many website owners have reported that this has killed 95% to 99% of all spam they were receiving.

Genuine business wouldn't mind paying their $970 bill by first paying $1 and then paying $969.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by philpem »

LightHugger wrote: post #252
roydivision wrote: post #243

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Em, this is a private company. I see what you mean, but this hardly points to some dystopia.

That's cute. With sufficient size and influence over your life, a private company is a form of government.

Bingo.

Even a relatively tiny company can have a huge impact on your life. Say you're interested in a niche hobby, so niche there's only one company who organises meet-ups and events around that hobby. The best friend of the chairman runs the main online forum for that hobby.

If you have a falling-out with either of those people, or their friends - you're going to lose all the social aspects of your hobby, and they're probably going to slander you to everyone they know. And people will repeat the lies, assuming that the chairman of the major event of the niche hobby wouldn't lie... and on and on.

The people who seek these roles absolutely love this, though homeowners' associations are probably the more familiar example of the same power structures.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Zetobal »

reuven wrote: post #291
Zetobal wrote: post #277

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So you are saying it wasn't really necessary for years to advertise. You decided after receiving an injust ban to not appeal for over a year besides your knowledge about other horror stories. Now your life depends on being able to advertise on Facebook and the way to go forward was writing a bad sob story gladly obfuscating your own failings in it. Looks like a lot of blaming and no self reflection.

Actually, I saw that I was banned, and thought, "OK, I'll deal with this another time." I hadn't heard horror stories. I didn't know that there was any such thing as a lifetime ban. It never occurred to me that if I didn't act soon, it would make a difference. I don't think that it's a sob story at all. I think that it's (a) incredibly funny that they would make such a mistake, (b) a combination of bad UI and bad ser…

You have a lot of really strong opinions without anything backing up your bogus claims (AI, endangered animals...). The view of you and your work really took a dive for me AND every user should be worried if a random employee at meta could "just" overwrite bans. Your entitlement and worse your assumptions provided as facts are deafening.
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