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US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by Pseudocrat »

notyourwork wrote: post #145
ChuckMcM wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you seriously want to take action here, then do this; 1) Look up your city ordinances on sound, there should be copies of this is the reference section of your city's public library. Identify the ordinance and paragraph that the people nearby are violating. Record/video one or more violations on your phone. 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for viol…

> 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for violating ordinance x, paragraph y. They are obligated to take your complaint and forward it to the District Attorney[1]. Good luck getting them to pick up. At least where I live (Seattle), I don't think its possible to get someone on the phone unless you call 911. Daytime phones automated system defers everythin…

Actually faster here to dial the non-emergency. I once called 911 because a 7 year old child approached me at a gas station asking for money. I was put on hold. When I called the non-emergency I got through right away. The cherry on top was when I received a callback from 911 dispatch over an hour later to check if I was okay.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by rrix2 »

dumbfounder wrote: post #146
lokar wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. More so for loud motorcycles, since cops tend to also own them.

I am in favor of louder pipes for motorcycles for safety reasons. But there is such a thing as too loud.

safer for whom? My windows only rattle after the motorcycle has driven past, they don't project the noise ahead of you nearly as much as you think they do.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by akudlacek »

WirelessGigabit wrote: post #50

This is wonderful. I wish they did the same about modifications done to increase the noise. I've got 2 people living nearby that both have straight-piped their car and I literally cover my ears when they pass by. My Watch literally tells me that a noise peak happened when they drive by.

This will do nothing to stop people from removing their mufflers.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by RajT88 »

notyourwork wrote: post #145
ChuckMcM wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you seriously want to take action here, then do this; 1) Look up your city ordinances on sound, there should be copies of this is the reference section of your city's public library. Identify the ordinance and paragraph that the people nearby are violating. Record/video one or more violations on your phone. 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for viol…

> 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for violating ordinance x, paragraph y. They are obligated to take your complaint and forward it to the District Attorney[1]. Good luck getting them to pick up. At least where I live (Seattle), I don't think its possible to get someone on the phone unless you call 911. Daytime phones automated system defers everythin…

City council meetings are for this. They typically have a citizen comments section at the end of the meeting.

Where I live, these citizen comments are beloved by wingnuts who hate their neighbors and are trying to convince the city to harass them. So - you know - try not to come off as one of those.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by akudlacek »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #108
WirelessGigabit wrote: post #50

This is wonderful. I wish they did the same about modifications done to increase the noise. I've got 2 people living nearby that both have straight-piped their car and I literally cover my ears when they pass by. My Watch literally tells me that a noise peak happened when they drive by.

You would need to stop the sale of exhaust tubing to prevent this. I don't think that is realistic

exactly

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by genter »

dumbfounder wrote: post #146
lokar wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. More so for loud motorcycles, since cops tend to also own them.

I am in favor of louder pipes for motorcycles for safety reasons. But there is such a thing as too loud.

So should every pedestrian have a blazing siren on their head?

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by Scoundreller »

InitialLastName wrote: post #123
Scoundreller wrote: post #105

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At least in Canadian cities, both bylaw officers and police can enforce these things. Bylaw officers tend to have less discretion on doing their job (and uhhh, fewer other crimes to claim to be busy with) Though sometimes this double-responsibility just means finger-pointing instead of action.

I've never heard of bylaw officers being a thing in the US. There are some code enforcement people in the US, but they mostly deal in very specific areas (fire code, building code, etc).

Don’t worry, you’re not missing out. Ours are ineffective/unwilling to enforce noise bylaws against vehicles anyway.

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Post by kraquepype »

plagiarist wrote: post #117
kjkjadksj wrote: post #55

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Not to mention good old fashioned overpowered unfocused led lighting. Its been a meme with the truck bros for years, but now these products have entered the general lighting supply. Now your landlord replaces the garage light with one thats brighter than the sun and shines into your bedroom. You will end up like Kramer in the chicken roaster episode of Seinfeld .

It is somehow every single vehicle on the road with these. People should lose their license for operating a vehicle with the blinding LEDs tilted up higher than highbeams would be. It is unsafe that approaching drivers cannot see past them as they drive by.

Ugh yeah. It's that time of year where it gets dark early and I get blinded on the way home from work by all the bro-dozer truck lights and intense LEDs.

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Post by RajT88 »

miguelazo wrote: post #84
wutwutwat wrote: post #66

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Your municipality likely has noise ordinances for anything above a certain decibel level. This can be handled by your local PD giving them tickets for their exhausts. I’ve seen it done before. If they keep getting tickets/fines they will likely change their exhausts. You can probably call the city about it but you can also call the cops. Just remember what they say about snitches.

Most municipalities, especially ones relying on cops to enforce these rules, rarely take action on these complaints.

These rules are usually used as probable cause to target someone the police officer was already targeting. "Profiling" is the better word for it maybe.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Post by altec3 »

notyourwork wrote: post #145
ChuckMcM wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you seriously want to take action here, then do this; 1) Look up your city ordinances on sound, there should be copies of this is the reference section of your city's public library. Identify the ordinance and paragraph that the people nearby are violating. Record/video one or more violations on your phone. 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for viol…

> 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for violating ordinance x, paragraph y. They are obligated to take your complaint and forward it to the District Attorney[1]. Good luck getting them to pick up. At least where I live (Seattle), I don't think its possible to get someone on the phone unless you call 911. Daytime phones automated system defers everythin…

I lived in Portland for years - and it's the same. Even if you did get someone on the phone, I doubt anything would happen. There's tons of cars without plates, mufflers, windshields, etc. driving around that the police don't care about.
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