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Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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It's must be some interesting mental gymnastics to equate "protecting consumer rights" to "state control".

Who guarantees protection of consumer rights if not the state? Again, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

People mentioned farmers in your sibling comments, are those consumers? I thought they are not.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Sorry to sound stupid but what is the point of an emissions defeat device?

There's a multitude or purposes. Improved power being one, improved reliability being another. Modern diesel emissions equipment fails regularly, often in hard to diagnose and repair ways. If you spent $100k on a truck, and you could spend $2k more to 'delete' some emissions equipment to prevent $10k+ worth of repairs in the future, would you do it?

It's not on you to decide that I get to breathe in carcinogens.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Isn't it strange that it's unlawful to have a muffler on your gun, and unlawful to NOT have a muffler on your car?

I think one of those things should be loud and one of those things should be quiet.

Suppressed firearms are still quite loud, typically 120-150dB, vs 145-175dB unsuppressed. It's enough to reduce hearing damage but still sounds like a gunshot.

The sound they make in movies couldn't be further from reality.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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This is wonderful. I wish they did the same about modifications done to increase the noise. I've got 2 people living nearby that both have straight-piped their car and I literally cover my ears when they pass by. My Watch literally tells me that a noise peak happened when they drive by.

Not to mention good old fashioned overpowered unfocused led lighting. Its been a meme with the truck bros for years, but now these products have entered the general lighting supply. Now your landlord replaces the garage light with one thats brighter than the sun and shines into your bedroom. You will end up like Kramer in the chicken roaster episode of Seinfeld.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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What about silencers/suppressors? Haven't looked for a while, but it used to be fairly common to be able to find them on both Amazon and eBay, usually listed as "lawnmower mufflers", with pretty un-subtle hints: "This lawnmower muffler fits a 9mm exhaust and you can bang around your back yard all morning without disturbing your neighbor."

Isn't it strange that it's unlawful to have a muffler on your gun, and unlawful to NOT have a muffler on your car?

Depending on your state, you can perfectly get a suppressor / silencer on your gun.

You need to get a threaded barrel, $250, available online.

Then you fill out paperwork, pay the ATF $200, wait, and then you'll get permission to buy one.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

#57

Emissions tests are a poverty tax that play a strong role in punishing people trying to buy affordable old cars and either pushing the demand curve for new cars, or pushing poor people into illegality or carlessness.

People should pay for the pollution they cause

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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> The right to repair people are leftists I think this is an oversimplification at best. Right-to-repair has huge support amongst e.g. farmers, who are not homogeneously left-leaning by any stretch.

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Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Emissions tests are a poverty tax that play a strong role in punishing people trying to buy affordable old cars and either pushing the demand curve for new cars, or pushing poor people into illegality or carlessness.

The poverty tax is making it required to have a vehicle to participate in society. Make better public transit options so owning a car is optional.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Emissions tests are a poverty tax that play a strong role in punishing people trying to buy affordable old cars and either pushing the demand curve for new cars, or pushing poor people into illegality or carlessness.

How do you mean? Here in Illinois they are free. It was also free in New Jersey.
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