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Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#21

This is where I get conflicted with ad blockers, on the one hand most website ads are trash, on the other hand there is great content on YT and I want those creators to make enough to carry on to get to the level where they proper sponsors. But, YT is so egregious with its ad insertions at times that it drives me mad and I don’t trust the creators will get fairly compensated if I go to premium.

Calculate what a creator earns per view. Donate or buy merch with that money.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#23
post #7

They're not actually ad blockers. They are javascript exploit protection. It just so happens a good fraction if not the majority of exploits come in through ad systems in general. It's a rare thing a website itself is going to attack you. It's always some code/media imported from a third party domain/ip. ie, ads.

You're right, YouTube ads are notorious for being JavaScript heavy and served by a third party.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The creators get more money per view from a premium member than an ad-supported viewer. So not only does being a paying member give you a better experience, it puts more cash in the pocket of those you watch.

Not arguing for the sake of it but is that confirmed? I assume the more I watch the less each creator gets? No idea what the algorithm is they use to share the money out

I think they sum up global watch minutes, despite the bias that causes.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

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post #16

Until YouTube starts injecting ads into the video stream (like Twitch), it's not going to be effective at all. There's no way to do a client-side anti-adblock and not have it bypassed. And TBH: since YouTube is not doing that, I think they might've decided the cost of that solution outweighs the projected revenue so they've chosen a cheaper solution. In Twitch's case, more of the audience might be techy, so ad inject…

Sponsorblock already exists as infrastructure to slice out ads embedded into the video streams themselves. Of course, the sponsor segments weren't put there by youtube, but the same (or similar) solutions would apply if they were.

It's much easier for anything non-live.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#26
The insidious aspect of this is the bait and switch YouTube did to consolidate their monopoly. A huge amount of videos were uploaded under the (idealistic and misguided) pretence they would be freely accessible without ads and so on. Had the YT UX been this way the whole time then the online video landscape would be much more competitive today.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#28

As soon as I get that, I'll be having yt-dlp very handy.

While that works for now, if Google ever took interest in it I think it would be pretty straightforward to break any libraries like that. If you change either the endpoints or the model or etc with any reasonable frequency the library authors couldn't possibly keep up. Google can orchestrate their rollouts so their things always keep working while the library users are always in for a surprise. This is one of those t…

It's usually not that easy for companies to move that fast as there's a lot of devices with YouTube apps that are still actively used but not updated frequently. Think old Android devices or Smart TVs.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#30

Is this with uBlock Origin or ABP?

Not OP, but I got this with uBlock Origin earlier.

Good to know. I have uBlock but haven't seen this push yet. I wonder what the technical implementation of their anti-adblock solution looks like
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