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Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#14

This is where I get conflicted with ad blockers, on the one hand most website ads are trash, on the other hand there is great content on YT and I want those creators to make enough to carry on to get to the level where they proper sponsors. But, YT is so egregious with its ad insertions at times that it drives me mad and I don’t trust the creators will get fairly compensated if I go to premium.

The creators get more money per view from a premium member than an ad-supported viewer. So not only does being a paying member give you a better experience, it puts more cash in the pocket of those you watch.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#16
Until YouTube starts injecting ads into the video stream (like Twitch), it's not going to be effective at all. There's no way to do a client-side anti-adblock and not have it bypassed.

And TBH: since YouTube is not doing that, I think they might've decided the cost of that solution outweighs the projected revenue so they've chosen a cheaper solution.

In Twitch's case, more of the audience might be techy, so ad injection ended up being the more optimal option.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#17

This is where I get conflicted with ad blockers, on the one hand most website ads are trash, on the other hand there is great content on YT and I want those creators to make enough to carry on to get to the level where they proper sponsors. But, YT is so egregious with its ad insertions at times that it drives me mad and I don’t trust the creators will get fairly compensated if I go to premium.

The creators get more money per view from a premium member than an ad-supported viewer. So not only does being a paying member give you a better experience, it puts more cash in the pocket of those you watch.

Not arguing for the sake of it but is that confirmed? I assume the more I watch the less each creator gets? No idea what the algorithm is they use to share the money out

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#18

This is where I get conflicted with ad blockers, on the one hand most website ads are trash, on the other hand there is great content on YT and I want those creators to make enough to carry on to get to the level where they proper sponsors. But, YT is so egregious with its ad insertions at times that it drives me mad and I don’t trust the creators will get fairly compensated if I go to premium.

YT is so egregious with its ad insertions at times

It's worse than broadcast TV. I'll usually sit through an ad at the beginning and maybe the end of a video because I want to support creators. But YT just sticks them into the middle of things, frequently ruining the experience of the surrounding content.

Meanwhile they promote absolute trash like Nikocado Avocado, which is my view is no different from shooting up heroin.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#19

This is where I get conflicted with ad blockers, on the one hand most website ads are trash, on the other hand there is great content on YT and I want those creators to make enough to carry on to get to the level where they proper sponsors. But, YT is so egregious with its ad insertions at times that it drives me mad and I don’t trust the creators will get fairly compensated if I go to premium.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. There's some quality content on YT, but A) I don't trust that more than a millionth of my YT premium free goes to these creators, B) normal YT is so intensely terrible that I don't feel good about rewarding google for their practices of pushing me towards premium and C) by paying for YT premium, I can't shake this vague notion of me enabling the further closing down of the internet by getting everything interesting locked up behind paywalls and monthly fees.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#20

As soon as I get that, I'll be having yt-dlp very handy.

While that works for now, if Google ever took interest in it I think it would be pretty straightforward to break any libraries like that. If you change either the endpoints or the model or etc with any reasonable frequency the library authors couldn't possibly keep up. Google can orchestrate their rollouts so their things always keep working while the library users are always in for a surprise. This is one of those things that could also be automated and put on a cron if one was really into it. In general though, I think for the time being this is luckily not a big enough of a dot on their radar for them to care.
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