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Or that's what they want you to believe - because obviously that's more lolz. Though maybe there's some that actually are, because of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1012082 Ask yourself why an actual racist without any intention to cause chaos would engage in this behavior though. It's clearly intended to offend and get a reaction - that's the main goal. Whether it's done by actual racists is secondary.
> It's clearly intended to offend and get a reaction - that's the main goal. Whether it's done by actual racists is secondary. No, you're completely off the mark here. It's done because they feel these things deep down and can't talk about them with people in real life to avoid being ostracized by what few friends they have left (or maybe they're super popular, I don't know). Yes, perhaps the _absolute_ most extreme…
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#52The cost of freedom is people using that freedom in ways you find distasteful. We are all better off with uncensored unaligned systems because it allows us the widest and freest expression.
Yep. No one should care what generative AI can produce, much as we shouldn't require airnail manufacturers to be responsible for how how people use or misuse their products. If DALL-E were used to make neo-Nazi posters or to promote an insurrection, the responsibility lies with the causive person(s), not with the tools they happened to use, i.e., their internet provider, Adobe Photoshop, or OpenAI. Even in the extrem…
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#53In some ways this feels like not news.4chan does 4chan. This could even be outrage troll if that’s still the meta. But it does make me think about a few things. - The Prime Minister of my little home country auto popping up as I typed in GIPHY memes the day she resigned. - Politicians and would-be politicians and religious leaders using race baiting and meme language (woke and pulled) in the lead up to the coming ele…
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#54Revisted 4chan the other day for the first time in years and it was awash in anti-semitic shit. Caricatures of jews with red eyes. It was interesting to see some of the threads taken over by AI generated cats killing nazis so the 4chan silliness was still there.
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> 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction. No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction. Now, its true, that people who are racist and also attention seekers might be motivated more by the latter than the former in doing that, but that…
> No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction. That's a bold statement and clearly untrue. A boatload of people gets their kicks out of pretending to hold any number of offensive views just to get a rise out of people online. When I was a dumb 16 year old that was one of my favorite past times. Only works on people who don't believe anyone wou…
What's some belief you pretended to have, but you really didn't?
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I need a reminder from time to time that the internet has become a dumpster fire. These add fuel to the internal debate I am always having as to whether we ought to just toss the whole stinking thing away and go back to a world dominated by radio [1]. [1] (Not that I have of course any means to do that ... but I can drop out I suppose.)
> I need a reminder from time to time that the internet has become a dumpster fire The internet was always a dumpster fire. 4chan is old, toxic forums are even older. That is part of the package. What made it cool was the freeness and gems, and the little adequately moderated niche communities. I would argue the bigger problem is that the internet became siloed, bland, soullessly moderated by corporations who don't c…
Lest we forget that a favorite pastime during the aughts was tricking your friends or strangers into visiting vile "shock" websites.
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> No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction. That's a bold statement and clearly untrue. A boatload of people gets their kicks out of pretending to hold any number of offensive views just to get a rise out of people online. When I was a dumb 16 year old that was one of my favorite past times. Only works on people who don't believe anyone wou…
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction. No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction. Now, its true, that people who are racist and also attention seekers might be motivated more by the latter than the former in doing that, but that…
> No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction. That's a bold statement and clearly untrue. A boatload of people gets their kicks out of pretending to hold any number of offensive views just to get a rise out of people online. When I was a dumb 16 year old that was one of my favorite past times. Only works on people who don't believe anyone wou…
Re: 4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images
#59In some ways this feels like not news.4chan does 4chan. This could even be outrage troll if that’s still the meta. But it does make me think about a few things. - The Prime Minister of my little home country auto popping up as I typed in GIPHY memes the day she resigned. - Politicians and would-be politicians and religious leaders using race baiting and meme language (woke and pulled) in the lead up to the coming ele…
Re: 4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction. That's a bold statement and clearly untrue. A boatload of people gets their kicks out of pretending to hold any number of offensive views just to get a rise out of people online. When I was a dumb 16 year old that was one of my favorite past times. Only works on people who don't believe anyone wou…
But do they really not hold those views? I know a lot of kids who do things to get a reaction, but I've seen one actually take an ideological perspective that they don't believe in to get one. They just broadcast ideological perspectives they do believe, which they think will get a reaction. What's some belief you pretended to have, but you really didn't?
Whatever I knew would get a rise out of my audience.