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4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images

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Revisted 4chan the other day for the first time in years and it was awash in anti-semitic shit. Caricatures of jews with red eyes. It was interesting to see some of the threads taken over by AI generated cats killing nazis so the 4chan silliness was still there.

Re: 4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images

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In today's news: 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction.

This is like writing newspaper articles about toilet graffiti. You're making the artist's day.

Re: 4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need a reminder from time to time that the internet has become a dumpster fire. These add fuel to the internal debate I am always having as to whether we ought to just toss the whole stinking thing away and go back to a world dominated by radio [1]. [1] (Not that I have of course any means to do that ... but I can drop out I suppose.)

What we need to do is build a progressive political orientation into all layers of the network, from site content moderation to actual packet routing. To quote Drew Devault, "no Nazis" is a better policy than "no politics".

Poe’s law strikes again. I legit cannot determine whether your comment is satire or genuine.

Re: 4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images

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In today's news: 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction. This is like writing newspaper articles about toilet graffiti. You're making the artist's day.

I know it brings you comfort to think they're just doing it for the lolz but unfortunately the reality is that a good chunk of them actually believe those things.

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gijames1225 said: I'm a little curious as to why this is even an article. It's inevitable and has no bearing on 99.99999% of people. I get that it's low hanging fruit from a reporting / research perspective (sort of like the 'Twitter users blah blah blah' articles), but outside of the 'publish or die' mindset of churning out content this is pointless and continues to make 4-chan and these people seem much more releva…

Racist content has a bearing on the marginalized races. Ignoring the casual hate on 4chan brought us GamerGate and Trump.

I thought deindustrialization and free trade brought us trump not memes? But maybe I made a mistake by listening to what trump supporters said.

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post #16

In today's news: 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction. This is like writing newspaper articles about toilet graffiti. You're making the artist's day.

I know it brings you comfort to think they're just doing it for the lolz but unfortunately the reality is that a good chunk of them actually believe those things.

Or that's what they want you to believe - because obviously that's more lolz.

Though maybe there's some that actually are, because of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1012082

Ask yourself why an actual racist without any intention to cause chaos would engage in this behavior though.

It's clearly intended to offend and get a reaction - that's the main goal. Whether it's done by actual racists is secondary.

Re: 4chan users manipulate AI tools to unleash torrent of racist images

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In today's news: 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction. This is like writing newspaper articles about toilet graffiti. You're making the artist's day.

> 4chan users who spam racist garbage, not because they are racist, but because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction, get a reaction.

No one spams racist garbage despite not being racists because they want to create chaos and are fishing for a reaction.

Now, its true, that people who are racist and also attention seekers might be motivated more by the latter than the former in doing that, but that’s a different issue.

And the source article from 404 Media is very much about how this is happening despite the Bing tool that they conclude is being used for much of it itself being largely crippled to prevent “harmful” images, and explicitly calls out the point that the result is that non-harmful use is being sacrificed, with no meaningful impact on harmful use. Which, I would think, would be a message that someone who sees the 4chan use as of no more negative significance than “toilet graffiti” would fully back, since crippling tools to ineffectively prevent “toilet graffiti” is even more problematic than doing though in a (failed) attempt to prevent something that might be more important to prevent.

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