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Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by superkuh »

fabrice_d wrote: post #122
superkuh wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And inherently a far less ram using browser. I do 500 tabs in under 3GB. By also not implementing all the useless attack surfaces like DRM, Integrated PDF reader, WebRTC, and friends it avoids many of the exploits which make modern browsers like FF and Chrome insecure. Overall it probably balances out. Especially since PM users are likely to have JS execution disabled by default (like I do).

It's pointless to say things like "500 tabs under 3GB" without knowing what's loaded in these tabs.

Well, it's not Facebook, Twitter, Discord or the like. I'll to you that. It's mostly actual websites written in HTML (like HN). But even with no websites loaded if you tried to open 500 blank Chrome tabs you'd run out of RAM. That's just the nature of per-tab many process browsers.

And 500 is just my actively loaded tabs. I have another 500 suspended.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by roskelld »

Been using it for well over a month now. I started after giving up trying to hack Firefox into giving me vertical tabs. With Floorp I have vertical tabs that I can un/hide (using the mouse gesture feature).

The end result gives a much cleaner interface where I can focus on page content and not surrounding UI. The built in mouse gesture plugin (which can be added to Firefox) takes me back to early Opera. I forgot how much I enjoyed using them.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by Narishma »

webmobdev wrote: post #126
johnny22 wrote: post #77

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it's hard to call servo a fork. its more like a ground up rewrite of a browser

You are right. Perhaps the right word is port - a rewrite of Gecko with Rust, instead of C++?

I don't think it's a port either. It's a new engine. I don't think it uses anything from Gecko.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by skinkestek »

fabrice_d wrote: post #143
skinkestek wrote: post #133

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Can you think of any realistic tab set that would result in Chrome or Firefox using as little memory?

I'm not the one that should prove anything here.

My point is that if you cannot create a single tab set that beats what GP mentioned in your preferred browser then his browser still uses less memory.

That said, none of this is scientific so I will leave it here.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by superkuh »

zaphirplane wrote: post #117
superkuh wrote: post #106

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Luckily the guy behind nearly all of the drama (Tobin) was kicked off the team a year or two ago. It's beeen smooth sailing since.

The maintainer came out swinging and backed the guy that opened the issue. Doesn’t sound like one person is the bad apple

True enough. It was sort of a LoTR Wormtongue and King Theoden situation. While Tobin was around Moonchild made some terrible choices. It's much better now.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by MikusR »

lmm wrote: post #159
MikusR wrote: post #42

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By what metric? Top 3 games by units sold are american. By revenue they are in top 4 with games made in 80s and top spot is a Korean game.

> By what metric? Top 3 games by units sold are american. The top 3 games by units sold were made respectively in Stockholm, Edinburgh and Moscow. How exactly do you figure that makes them "american"?

The particular mobile version of EA published Tetris was made in Moscow?

Also none of those are Japan.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

rjh29 wrote: post #74
papaver-somnamb wrote: post #44

Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…

It's just a country like any other, most of us are proud of the things our country has done.

My guess is that you never visited Japan, or spent significant time with Japanese people. Am I correct?

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by lmm »

MikusR wrote: post #186
lmm wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By what metric? Top 3 games by units sold are american. The top 3 games by units sold were made respectively in Stockholm, Edinburgh and Moscow. How exactly do you figure that makes them "american"?

The particular mobile version of EA published Tetris was made in Moscow? Also none of those are Japan.

> The particular mobile version of EA published Tetris was made in Moscow?

No, but if someone e.g. dubs (and perhaps even recuts) a film for the local market, we would generally still consider it to be "from" the place it was originally made.

> Also none of those are Japan.

Sure, just trying to puncture the americocentrism a little.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by Razengan »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #82
toxinu wrote: post #18

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People buying and flexing with stuff that have "Designed in California" engraved on them and being offended with an Open Source software that just want to say is it developed in Japan. Stop over thinking and just appreciate people work. And meanwhile, Japan has been the biggest video games actor in the industry for the latest 50 years, so I guess there are some engineers over there.

> People buying and flexing with stuff that have "Designed in California" engraved on them Maybe I'm just in the wrong bubble, but I've never seen that. > And meanwhile, Japan has been the biggest video games actor in the industry for the latest 50 years Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. Their focus is on the gaming part. Though, it has become a bit better in the last years, but usually…

> Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

Guess which hemisphere was responsible for the Video Game Crash and which one helped the industry recover from it. :)

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by NBPEL »

onthecanposting wrote: post #136
phantomathkg wrote: post #107

Looking at the 4 team members referenced in the different thread [0], we can tell they are a team of 4 people, one of them are university student and 3 high school students. Maybe we shouldn't bash them too badly and instead encourage them tempering around and contribute to open source more in the future? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37735533

I wouldn't be that shocked if four students with no budget produced a better product than the Mozilla Corporation.

Funding them would be better than funding Mozilla's CEO, they won't give Firefox much attention and we users donate to them for Firefox and they use our money to do boring (dead) projects ?
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