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Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by PurpleRamen »

Razengan wrote: post #98
PurpleRamen wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People buying and flexing with stuff that have "Designed in California" engraved on them Maybe I'm just in the wrong bubble, but I've never seen that. > And meanwhile, Japan has been the biggest video games actor in the industry for the latest 50 years Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. Their focus is on the gaming part. Though, it has become a bit better in the last years, but usually…

> Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. You have to be from a parallel planet or a limited bubble to not notice that Japanese games have always generally had fewer bugs than Western games, and much less need for patches, ever since arcades and the NES.

If there are fewer features, then there are naturally fewer bugs.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by dilawar »

brabel wrote: post #72
papaver-somnamb wrote: post #44

Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…

> This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. I think countries mostly fall into one of two baskets: * those who normally favor their own country's products. * those who almost universally loathe their own country's products. I was born in one of the latter types of countries. Where I am from, the word "imported" was absolutely synonym with "better quality". It didn't even matter w…

> those who almost universally loathe their own country's products.

In Indian rural side, "desi" (native) is almost always synonyms with bad quality, not cheap which is implied, but bad quality. I heard that desi in many foreign country means Indian?!

Desi or swadesi (home made) had a special emotional appeal to urban upper middle class leadership during freedom struggle. I don't know how they feel about it.

Chandrayaan from ISRO was a very significant moment in this regard. Done by desi engineers educated in desi schools. I am one of those.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by have_faith »

brabel wrote: post #72
papaver-somnamb wrote: post #44

Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…

> This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. I think countries mostly fall into one of two baskets: * those who normally favor their own country's products. * those who almost universally loathe their own country's products. I was born in one of the latter types of countries. Where I am from, the word "imported" was absolutely synonym with "better quality". It didn't even matter w…

The UK these days is a bit of a mixed bag. The love/loathe difference depends a lot on the product category.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by superkuh »

squigz wrote: post #90
xcdzvyn wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to cause trouble, but it's also worth noting the PaleMoon people have stirred a fair amount of controversy in their time. - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16318820 (they later described this incident as "resistance from the BSD community to adhere to normal free software development practices") - https://www.reddit.com/r/palemoon/comments/pexate/pale_moon_... - https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopi…

That is just completely opposed to the spirit of FOSS. A really sad way to treat contributors like Feodor, but a very effective way of ensuring I'll never use that fork

Luckily the guy behind nearly all of the drama (Tobin) was kicked off the team a year or two ago. It's beeen smooth sailing since.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by phantomathkg »

Looking at the 4 team members referenced in the different thread [0], we can tell they are a team of 4 people, one of them are university student and 3 high school students. Maybe we shouldn't bash them too badly and instead encourage them tempering around and contribute to open source more in the future?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37735533

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by mminer237 »

webmobdev wrote: post #66
bluish29 wrote: post #20

For reference, this is not just the only player in town (for Firefox forks). There is the following: - librewolf (Desktop) [1] - Mull (Android) [2] - Iceraven (Android) [3] - Mercury (Desktop) [4] - Pulse Browser (Desktop) [5] - Waterfox (Desktop) [6] - Floorp (Desktop) [7] --> This submission - Pale Moon (Desktop) [8] - Mullvad Browser (Desktop) [9] - Tor browser (Desktop - Android) [10] This list is not inclusive.…

Note that out of these, the PaleMoon browser ( https://www.palemoon.org ) is the only real "hard" fork of Firefox. The others are all "soft" forks of Mozilla Firefox in that they all just customise some existing settings as defaults or customise the UI or integrate their own extensions of Firefox and rebrand it. The PaleMoon team however forked even Mozilla Gecko ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(software) ), th…

Another hard fork is Basilisk (https://www.basilisk-browser.org/), which was originally developed by the folks behind Pale Moon but is now independent.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by cassepipe »

rjh29 wrote: post #74
papaver-somnamb wrote: post #44

Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…

It's just a country like any other, most of us are proud of the things our country has done.

Well I must be part of the exception then. I am not proud of anything I have not directly contributed to. Feeling proud for other people achievements is very strange to me.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by rjh29 »

cassepipe wrote: post #109
rjh29 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a country like any other, most of us are proud of the things our country has done.

Well I must be part of the exception then. I am not proud of anything I have not directly contributed to. Feeling proud for other people achievements is very strange to me.

I assume you don't feel shame for things your fellow humans have done either? Anyway everyone is different, but I'm talking about neurotypical people mostly.
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