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Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by mplewis »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #101
Razengan wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. You have to be from a parallel planet or a limited bubble to not notice that Japanese games have always generally had fewer bugs than Western games, and much less need for patches, ever since arcades and the NES.

If there are fewer features, then there are naturally fewer bugs.

Tears of the Kingdom is more featureful than the last few Assassin's Creed games and worked out of the box, which is more than I can say for today's Ubisoft products.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by fabrice_d »

superkuh wrote: post #116
diath wrote: post #97

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Pale Moon is also inherently less secure due to Goanna sticking to single process mode.

And inherently a far less ram using browser. I do 500 tabs in under 3GB. By also not implementing all the useless attack surfaces like DRM, Integrated PDF reader, WebRTC, and friends it avoids many of the exploits which make modern browsers like FF and Chrome insecure. Overall it probably balances out. Especially since PM users are likely to have JS execution disabled by default (like I do).

It's pointless to say things like "500 tabs under 3GB" without knowing what's loaded in these tabs.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by finite_depth »

dilawar wrote: post #104
brabel wrote: post #72

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> This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. I think countries mostly fall into one of two baskets: * those who normally favor their own country's products. * those who almost universally loathe their own country's products. I was born in one of the latter types of countries. Where I am from, the word "imported" was absolutely synonym with "better quality". It didn't even matter w…

> those who almost universally loathe their own country's products. In Indian rural side, "desi" (native) is almost always synonyms with bad quality, not cheap which is implied, but bad quality. I heard that desi in many foreign country means Indian?! Desi or swadesi (home made) had a special emotional appeal to urban upper middle class leadership during freedom struggle. I don't know how they feel about it. Chandray…

American here: I've only heard "desi" used as a self-descriptor by South Asian people, usually Indian (but I think Pakistani sometimes as well?). It doesn't carry a negative connotation here that I know of, though I might have missed one that does exist.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by diogenes4 »

qalmakka wrote: post #2

What's the point of stating that "it's made in Japan"? I just don't get it. Does it have improved IME or CJK support? It's not like Japan is famous for its quality software to be honest.

> It's not like Japan is famous for its quality software to be honest.

Well they aren't known for software at all, but the japanese are notorious about being sticklers for quality.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by diogenes4 »

toxinu wrote: post #18
qalmakka wrote: post #2

What's the point of stating that "it's made in Japan"? I just don't get it. Does it have improved IME or CJK support? It's not like Japan is famous for its quality software to be honest.

People buying and flexing with stuff that have "Designed in California" engraved on them and being offended with an Open Source software that just want to say is it developed in Japan. Stop over thinking and just appreciate people work. And meanwhile, Japan has been the biggest video games actor in the industry for the latest 50 years, so I guess there are some engineers over there.

Well, it's not like california is known for making quality products (outside of film, i guess). Japan is.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by webmobdev »

johnny22 wrote: post #77
webmobdev wrote: post #66

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Note that out of these, the PaleMoon browser ( https://www.palemoon.org ) is the only real "hard" fork of Firefox. The others are all "soft" forks of Mozilla Firefox in that they all just customise some existing settings as defaults or customise the UI or integrate their own extensions of Firefox and rebrand it. The PaleMoon team however forked even Mozilla Gecko ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(software) ), th…

it's hard to call servo a fork. its more like a ground up rewrite of a browser

You are right. Perhaps the right word is port - a rewrite of Gecko with Rust, instead of C++?

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by afavour »

cassepipe wrote: post #109
rjh29 wrote: post #74

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It's just a country like any other, most of us are proud of the things our country has done.

Well I must be part of the exception then. I am not proud of anything I have not directly contributed to. Feeling proud for other people achievements is very strange to me.

It's just an extension of society in general. I live in a neighbourhood, I am a member of the community. I am proud of my neighbourhood even though I am not directly responsible for everything positive within it. Same principle scales all the way up to countries. It's a way of bringing people together (see: national sports teams). Nationalism is, uh, not without its downsides. But the motivations are pretty clear.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by skotobaza »

Razengan wrote: post #98
PurpleRamen wrote: post #82

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> People buying and flexing with stuff that have "Designed in California" engraved on them Maybe I'm just in the wrong bubble, but I've never seen that. > And meanwhile, Japan has been the biggest video games actor in the industry for the latest 50 years Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. Their focus is on the gaming part. Though, it has become a bit better in the last years, but usually…

> Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. You have to be from a parallel planet or a limited bubble to not notice that Japanese games have always generally had fewer bugs than Western games, and much less need for patches, ever since arcades and the NES.

Look at the PC ports. Games tied to FPS which results in poor in-game physics behavior. Inability to change settings. It's like they live on some other planet not us...

Devil May Cry 3 and Dark Souls 1 jumped to my mind immediately as notoriously bad ports. Even DMC4 and DMC5 have some problems. FromSoft games improved the quality of their ports on the other hand.

I do understand that Japanese mostly play on consoles but nowadays it's not an excuse anymore.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by Razengan »

skotobaza wrote: post #128
Razengan wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. You have to be from a parallel planet or a limited bubble to not notice that Japanese games have always generally had fewer bugs than Western games, and much less need for patches, ever since arcades and the NES.

Look at the PC ports. Games tied to FPS which results in poor in-game physics behavior. Inability to change settings. It's like they live on some other planet not us... Devil May Cry 3 and Dark Souls 1 jumped to my mind immediately as notoriously bad ports. Even DMC4 and DMC5 have some problems. FromSoft games improved the quality of their ports on the other hand. I do understand that Japanese mostly play on consoles…

PC in general basically stands for Patch City.

It's a hellish development environment even for Western PC-only studios. WHICH PC game has been free of bugs in recent times anyway?

While on the other hand pretty much every PS5 game has been basically flawless on release day.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by Razengan »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #101
Razengan wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Japanese games are often notorious bad on the technical details. You have to be from a parallel planet or a limited bubble to not notice that Japanese games have always generally had fewer bugs than Western games, and much less need for patches, ever since arcades and the NES.

If there are fewer features, then there are naturally fewer bugs.

Seems like you're going to twist it around to "West is Best" chauvinism no matter what.

Elden Ring

Demon's Souls

Death Stranding

Resident Evil 4

Final Fantasy 7

Street Fighter 6

Final Fantasy 16

Armored Core 6...

Every major PS5 game in the last couple years, was virtually flawless on release day.

And of course Nintendo is still scoring hits with almost everything.

Meanwhile on Reddit everyone is crying about the PC versions, of even PC-only games!

Starfield has been a bug ridden joke, typical of Bethesda, one of the flagship Western studios, still unable to improve their janky physics and cringey NPCs.

Diablo 4 gave me the only crashes I have ever seen on the PS5.

Harry Potter, Redfall, Immortals of Aveum... overhyped flops. Baldur's Gate 3 has been the only saving grace from the Western gaming industry that I can think of.

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