Ah, yes, alarm fatigue. I wonder what the affects are of alarm fatigue outside of work on safety-sensitive jobs that also have alarm fatigue of their own (i.e. medical/nursing tasks).
Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
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Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That decision is being made by a person who you should be able to find and share your concern with. Good point, and it generalizes to pretty much all the social problems "created by" tech. The technology is fine . Behind each misuse is a person or a group that commissioned said tech, and/or is applying it in malicious ways. Focusing on ills of technology, while ignoring the people wielding it for wrong, is just a d…
> Behind each misuse is a person or a group that commissioned said tech How many cases of misuse implicates a structural flaw in a larger system? It's absurd to point the finger, over and over, at this or that "malicious" person. It's exhausting! They somehow keep getting incentivized to appear.
Yes, but! People, not systems, are the moral actors. And yes, while a lot of problems are more or less systemic, in many cases those systems have control levers that happen to be in the reach of a small number of people. Finally, pointing the fingers and creating ethical, social and legal pressure for people closest to control levers, is a form of systemic response too - it's adding a back flow to form a feedback loop.
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> in the hands of a kid, today's phone technology and it's inability to stop this crap it's the incarnation of evil. I'm going to be that guy: this honestly just sounds like you're abdicating your parental responsibility and placing the blame on the tech. Yes, the tech is bad, but there's no reason why your kid should be subjected to the full weight of its awfulness besides that you let him. Step one is to question w…
> Peer pressure is not a good enough answer. It absolutely is. Enjoy having an isolated kid, I guess.
I was raised to think for myself and avoid doing things just because my friends do them. It's worked out rather well for me, and I very much intend to help my kids learn the same.
Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
#364I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…
It is a breach of trust. I give apps access to my immediate attention so they can notify me of things that need my attention. Not for telling me about their new features or some crappy partner deal. For this reason I have a one strike policy for apps. One marketing notification and permissions are revoked. Missing out on surprisingly little although it has made me stop using some services entirely.
> One marketing notification and permissions are revoked.
That is more forgiving than my policy. Under the same condition, that app gets removed from my phone.
Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
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A radical idea - maybe kids, if they really have to have a smart phone, should not have any credit card stored in it? I've only heard about fuckups when this is allowed. Unless they have to pay ie for their bus rides or lunches via some idiotic app, then... some extremely limited debit card with no chance going below 0 maybe?
Sure, but apple requires one to be linked to use the phone. So…
Apple does not require a credit card to use an iPhone.
Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
#366Lyft/Uber/DoorDash and a host of others have useful notifications when you have a delivery but abuse trust to send a ton of marketing spam.
Apple should make a version of - Allow notifications for 1 hour.
Like how they have allow location use while this app is open.
Sooooooo much garbage notifications email and real mail.
In the name of earning a few more dollars, we subject most humans to incredible amount of decision fatigue. Future definitely isn’t a utopia.
Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
#367It's my older clients who are inundated with prompts constantly. I can't even have a Zoom call and maintain their attention. On their side it's ding... ding... whoosh... ding...
I don't know if they know what DND is and how to turn it on. I suspect they do, but it doesn't cross their mind not to see an email or answer a phone call the moment it arrives.
Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds
#368I think it's vital to strictly manage what notifications we allow our phones to give us. Unfortunately, I've noticed a trend where apps are becoming less cooperative. Many apps will have a single all-or-nothing notification setting. Others have dozens of vague, poorly-labelled categories. And all of this is hidden several clicks deep in configuration settings. The result is that we can't be sure which notifications t…
That would be nuts. What would be the incentive for people to “opt in” to marketing spam? Get 10% off your next order if you leave marketing notifications on for 1 month? Also the UI would be a mess. UX would be terrible. Most people would probably ignore the massive list of options, and then complain later as to why the app isn’t notifying them :dead:
What is the incentive for people to opt in to cookies?
And have you never given your email to a company for a 15% off code? Happens all the time.
Nice try defending tech companies against regulation though.
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A notification management system sounds like something that needs to exist, but how would it work if companies don't adhere to standards? I don't see any way out of this that doesn't first involve legislation.
Machine learning! Android could filter notifications, easy.
I would trust that about as much as I trust their spam filtering, which is very little. And notifications are usually a lot more important than any given email these days.
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I have an iOS device, so can’t speak for Google, but I suspect that’s what Apple has been _trying_ to do. The problem is that these apps are essentially adversarial in their notifications. If you have a mechanism for “only the most essential notifications”, then they simply mark all their notifications as “essential” (looking at you Uber). Try to limit their notifications using “only is summary” or disabling them and…
> then they simply mark all their notifications as “essential" That's like getting spam mail from your bank. In the physical world this would be illegal
Some banks (CapitalOne) literally show ads in their banking UI, and send literal spam.
Perfectly legal.