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Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Starbucks is like this. They deliberately bundle together "Promotions & Order Status" to make sure you receive their junk.

Sounds like a good reason to give your business to someone else

Find me a business that doesn't do such shenanigans?

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

It is a breach of trust. I give apps access to my immediate attention so they can notify me of things that need my attention. Not for telling me about their new features or some crappy partner deal. For this reason I have a one strike policy for apps. One marketing notification and permissions are revoked. Missing out on surprisingly little although it has made me stop using some services entirely.

The entire purpose of getting you to install a mobile phone app is to push marketing notifications at you in a way that forces you to interact with them, if only to individually dismiss them. Whatever it is /you/ want to do with the app is incidental to this, and only of any concern to the extent that it helps convince you to install the app.

Where it's possible to do the thing you want to do with a web browser (also with minimal permissions, natch), never install the app.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

Yeah, delivery apps suck in this regard and iOS should really do more to help. I would love a push notification option to the effect of “only if I’ve used the app in the last 2 hours”.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

One issue is that things don't stay DND or blocked. All the apps update individually, and also every few months the vendor publishes a new OS update with yet more enshittification to turn off (where you even can! Search for how to turn off "at a glance" to see a tide of consumer misery and frustration. The vendor has important awesome things they want to do with your device, and only occasionally do those happen to a…

Huh, strange, is this specific to Android? Because my DND mode stays DND throughout updates, except for the contacts and apps I've already marked as the exceptions. I don't think I've ever had the problem of unwanted notifications.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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I just checked and there are 16 messages from one school in the last 7 days. The other school have managed 11. Those are emails, containing PDFs, containing important dates, if you can find them.

I dream that one day organizations will learn that you can in fact just put your message in plain text in the message body, rather than a 1MB PDF or docx

"I don't have time to learn all this freaky techbabble, I have a day job. Why can't you just use Word like a normal person?"

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Aren't you able to solve #1, by locking down your kid's ability install anything?

Yes. IPhones (and android too iirc) also have a robust screen time system we use for our kids. Problem is that Apple doesn't make it very easy to use if you're not familiar with tech... and I've seen several frustrating UX/sync bugs with it. Could be a lot better, but it's there - especially important to limit them charging in-game purchases to your card without prompting for approval.

A radical idea - maybe kids, if they really have to have a smart phone, should not have any credit card stored in it? I've only heard about fuckups when this is allowed.

Unless they have to pay ie for their bus rides or lunches via some idiotic app, then... some extremely limited debit card with no chance going below 0 maybe?

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Yeah, and it’s also incredibly rude. Like, we’re having lunch together in person, and mid-sentence, they disappear into their phone for minutes at a time. I stop hanging out with these types of people. If online bullshit is more important than actual real life, what is even the point? I leave on notifications for calls and calendar events. That’s it. Texts are silenced but appear on the lock screen. Everything else i…

How do you know it's online bullshit and not a time-sensitive message from family? I'd never do it mid-sentance, but if I hear my Whatsapp notification tone then I will make a mental note to check that fairly soon, because sometimes it is something important

At what point did society, unprompted and unquestioned, shift to using the Whatsapp phone app for actually important urgent serious things instead of, y'know, SMS or a phone call?

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Everybody is. I'm strongly of the opinion that all this 'needy tech' is a net negative and I try hard to keep it out of my life. But some of it, mostly associated with my kids schooling, is very hard to avoid. 10 emails per week about some school portal with 'an important message' (which you need to separately logged into, of course the message is so important that it can't be entrusted to mere email, even though the…

> Tech should serve us It should , but it's becoming more and more obvious that it won't and can't . Literally every economic incentive it pushing towards 1) making it crappier until it's just good enough to buy, 2) maximally exploiting its users. The market won't save us, because a competitor who tries to gain market-share by not doing that crap will eventually turn around and join in the fun, once it's in their int…

FOSS serves me. Use only FOSS and feel a giant weight off your shoulders as you learn to trust again.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Sounds like a good reason to give your business to someone else

Find me a business that doesn't do such shenanigans?

I bought some Camper shoes the other week and got zero spam so far
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