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Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by dunefox »

lolinder wrote: post #95
MichaelRo wrote: post #38

My kid (soon to be 11 years old) has this problem and is (almost) driving me nuts. There are three causes of this: 1) He's dumb. Will click and install on any crap he comes by. 2) He doesn't know to operate his phone. Every now and then I take his phone and turn off notifications for the apps I saw that popped them. #3: This one's mysterious to me as well. Somehow they (the notifications) get re-enabled back. I'm dis…

> in the hands of a kid, today's phone technology and it's inability to stop this crap it's the incarnation of evil. I'm going to be that guy: this honestly just sounds like you're abdicating your parental responsibility and placing the blame on the tech. Yes, the tech is bad, but there's no reason why your kid should be subjected to the full weight of its awfulness besides that you let him. Step one is to question w…

> Peer pressure is not a good enough answer.

It absolutely is. Enjoy having an isolated kid, I guess.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by dalore »

MereInterest wrote: post #330
dalore wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has this. You can make notification types as silent or normal or priority. Notifications from the same app have groupings of what type of notifications they will send. And you pick which ones you want to be notified about.

Doesn’t this rely on the app developer maintaining the correct labeling of each category? An unethical developer would just mix advertisements into all notification category, while an ethical developer wouldn’t be sending the spurious notifications in the first place.

That is true.

But careful the app developer that abuses this position, for they will more likely be the app I remove from my phone.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by tremon »

sznio wrote: post #295
MichaelRo wrote: post #38

My kid (soon to be 11 years old) has this problem and is (almost) driving me nuts. There are three causes of this: 1) He's dumb. Will click and install on any crap he comes by. 2) He doesn't know to operate his phone. Every now and then I take his phone and turn off notifications for the apps I saw that popped them. #3: This one's mysterious to me as well. Somehow they (the notifications) get re-enabled back. I'm dis…

> I call him and he doesn't reply. Why? Coze he turns the sound volume off, just so he can have some peace of mind. Otherwise it's "ping ping ping ping", relentlessly throughout the day and night. Same for me. I usually call people back after an hour or two when I check my phone. I fucking wish Android had an option to disable ALL notifications BUT all calls.

Not sure about stock Android, but my eOS phone has a toggle in sound preferences "link notification and ring volumes", and if I disable it, I can manage ring volume and notification volume separately.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by wildrhythms »

mr_mitm wrote: post #61
haltist wrote: post #17

Sometimes I will be having a conversation with someone and then their phone will buzz or make some sound and the person's attention will shift entirely to the phone. I don't think people realize the effect these gadgets have on their cognition. I have a phone but it is always on silent. I've decided that it is not acceptable to remotely hijack my attention. No notification on my phone sent by some corporation is ever…

That's why I believe phone calls should be considered intrusive these days. Unless it's an emergency or you're my mom, you should send a text. I'm not going to notice anyway unless I'm looking at my phone while you call.

I agree and I frequently come back to read this great anti-telephone manifesto titled 'I hate telephones' by Jim Fisher. You might enjoy it: https://jameshfisher.com/2017/11/08/i-hate-telephones/

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by jjgreen »

wccrawford wrote: post #332
jjgreen wrote: post #298

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I admire your positive attitude, but it's similar to smackheads, they're just no fun to be around. "Have you thought of taking less Heroin" won't cut it.

I think you're getting downvoted because of your comparison to hard drugs, but you're not wrong about the people. That phone is more engaging to them than the conversation they're in, and if you try to tell them about it, they use all the same excuses that other addicts use, plus a few more.

Downvotes whatever. The analogy is apposite I think, you do see that addicts and non-addicts do tend to gather into groups, neither finds the company of the other very attractive. In pubs, you often see groups of phone people, each with a half-pint in front of them, each furiously texting away to people they'd rather be spending time with. Top night out!

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by mensetmanusman »

soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

I tried that, but now windows 11 keeps getting micro updates at work and the advertisements in the start menu are always enabled and telling me about wonderful sales.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by mr_mitm »

wildrhythms wrote: post #344
mr_mitm wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I believe phone calls should be considered intrusive these days. Unless it's an emergency or you're my mom, you should send a text. I'm not going to notice anyway unless I'm looking at my phone while you call.

I agree and I frequently come back to read this great anti-telephone manifesto titled 'I hate telephones' by Jim Fisher. You might enjoy it: https://jameshfisher.com/2017/11/08/i-hate-telephones/

He got a lot of good points, except I don't share the experience of phobia. Probably because of my job which required me to take and make calls regularly. Since then I don't feel the slightest bit of phobia, just a strong annoyance when someone interrupts my day. Everything else is very agreeable.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by wildrhythms »

nitwit005 wrote: post #173

A majority of these notifications are the teens communicating with their peers. That's how you get an absurd total like thousands a day. Much of their socializing has moved online. Parents have effectively encouraged this trend, despite complaining about phone time. People are far less willing to let their children just hang around the neighborhood, or walk to a friend's home these days, which forces communication th…

Unfortunately suburban sprawl in America has led to people becoming more and more spread out, so it's no surprise communication takes place over long (not easily walkable) distance, where nobody knows their neighbors because ultimately they need to get in their car to go anywhere, complete isolating themselves from the world around them.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by wildrhythms »

jethro_tell wrote: post #124
mkl95 wrote: post #91

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I muted a ton of useless Slack channels everyone is expected to be in, but some bot notifications somehow get through. It got worse lately which I assume is an Android or Slack bug, or both. Slack + bad management is the ultimate job enshittifier.

Sure, but monitor group slack Channels on your computer. Sure everyone needs to be in #company-announce but you surely don't need to read that outside of the times you are at your desk. You can limit notifications to direct mentions and times as well.

My favorite are the people who send weekly (ACTION REQUIRED) emails that begin with, "If you don't use xyz, please disregard". Do these people have no self awareness? Is it some kind of outward narcissism?
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