Wow. Not interested in winning the war this way.
Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix
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Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix
#32Regular reminder Matrix/Element work closely with law-enforcement to provide encrypted comms for them. It's a sector Matrix/Element actively markets to and deals with. My personal view is I'm not using a chat platform designed/developed by an organization so eager to partner with governments and law enforcement agencies. There's Element's Chief Product Officer & Managing Director presenting at the European Police Con…
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#33It's quite disappointing that there's huge ongoing work around reinventing clients from scratch where the basic functionality of not ringing all my devices while I'm using only one of them [1] is still not there (bug open for years), despite it being a pretty simple fix. [1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/360
Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Element is to matrix what chrome is to http. The most used client for that protocol.
Element is the trading name of a company, of three clients with mostly-independent codebases written by that company (web, android, iOS; not counting the two Element X rewrites), and of a hosting service (EMS).
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#35Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix
#36It's quite disappointing that there's huge ongoing work around reinventing clients from scratch where the basic functionality of not ringing all my devices while I'm using only one of them [1] is still not there (bug open for years), despite it being a pretty simple fix. [1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/360
But X requires Sliding Sync on the server, which is still a separate service to run alongside the homeserver and doesn't have a stable API. I am increasingly disappointed with how centralized Matrix is becoming, since AFAIK there isn't really an alternate client close to the same level of quality as Element.
I probably would've made all of the same decisions myself though, so I don't blame them I'm just a bit disappointed in how it's shaking out.
Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix
#37Regular reminder Matrix/Element work closely with law-enforcement to provide encrypted comms for them. It's a sector Matrix/Element actively markets to and deals with. My personal view is I'm not using a chat platform designed/developed by an organization so eager to partner with governments and law enforcement agencies. There's Element's Chief Product Officer & Managing Director presenting at the European Police Con…
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#38Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix
#39It's quite disappointing that there's huge ongoing work around reinventing clients from scratch where the basic functionality of not ringing all my devices while I'm using only one of them [1] is still not there (bug open for years), despite it being a pretty simple fix. [1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/360
There are quite a few issues that they've stopped fixing in the Element app in favor of doing it in Element X, the one I've been following is where the iOS app causes a breakage in E2EE when you use the share extension, so they just disabled the share extension entirely and said they'd fix in X - https://github.com/vector-im/element-ios/issues/7618 But X requires Sliding Sync on the server, which is still a separate…
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#40Thoughts on how this will get us towards when libre software privacy&security type people are ready to advise friends to move to Matrix for personal communication? (To be clear, the platform has to be all open source and open standards, actually decentralized, guided by those principles -- not an effectively proprietary play even if nominally open. For example, you should be able to get all the same functionality wit…
Matrix 2.0 is a major step towards getting friends & family on Matrix. Firstly, it's not introducing new features - it's just making the current featureset work super-efficiently (while retaining compatibility with today's Matrix). So there should be no fragmentation between Element/Fluffychat/Thunderbird, with the possible exception of the new scalable encrypted VoIP conferencing (but then very few Matrix clients im…
> plus you can always just embed an Element Call instance
That sounds like potentially a commercial embrace&extend&extinguish situation, which we need to avoid.