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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by somehnguy »

kyriakos wrote: post #66
meepmorp wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I enjoy the corporate sense of comedic timing that went into the decision to have it wait till you're driving again.

Its as if the reasoning behind it was "when the popup comes up, stop, switch to parking mode so you can read the new terms of service, then continue your trip". The first time I got it a month ago I just left it on screen till I reached my destination and went through the terms. I got another update yesterday, i just dismissed it, will see it again tomorrow for sure.

That scenario is so comically dystopian. Nobody cares about the terms because they can't do anything about them anyway, so just leave people alone.. Also, stop changing the terms so much.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by distract8901 »

makeva wrote: post #82
Rychard wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ask me to do firmware updates when I try to shut a device down, not when I turn it on. Ask me to update some software when I close a document, not when I launch it to do some work. Just yesterday, I was at the grocery store and needed to check my shopping list on my phone. When I unlocked my phone, I found that it had (entirely on its own) connected to the insecure store wifi, and was downloading a 1GB+ update pack…

Name and shame

My Samsung phone has forced updates even worse than this. It will download an update silently in the background and will nag me with a new notification every couple of hours. It will let me delay the update for a random length of time before just rebooting on its own. The last update let me delay for something like 10 hours, but I've also had it reboot in the middle of the day while I was using my phone to show something to a customer.

This has also soft-bricked my device more than once. I use a custom launcher, and Samsung apparently doesn't like that, so the system updates can get me stuck in a loop where the launcher repeatedly crashes.

There is no way at all to disable auto updates or stop the process once an update has been acquired. I've even tried blocking IPs in my router, but it seems to change addresses now and then. My only option is to just always keep WiFi off. It thankfully won't download over the cell network.

I'm never buying another Samsung product. I hate this phone more than I have any other piece of technology.

The idea that some company can at any moment force my device to download gigabytes of unknown data and run anything they want on my device without my knowledge or consent is just reprehensible. I paid over a thousand dollars for this piece of crap and I don't even own it. It's utterly ridiculous.

Every few weeks I get a new notification that the Samsung EULA has updated. I just dismiss them. It's not like it matters if I agree or not.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by freedomben »

karaterobot wrote: post #60

Tangent: I would love if there was a place that did car reviews that actually talked about UI. Car interfaces are such a huge part of the experience of driving now, and none of the car review channels I watch give it more than a couple sentences. If they ever mention the UI at all, it's to say whether it feels "snappy", or if it supports CarPlay, or how large the touch screen is. I want a deep dive into more of the d…

Interesting, I agree that would be really nice. Have you looked around for such a thing? It seems like such an obvious idea, there's got to be people doing it!

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by swores »

doublerabbit wrote: post #115
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the cookie tracking whether or not you responded isn’t saved if you reject cookies?

Nah. They normally have the default "allow system cookies" which is untickable. What annoys me are the "Legitimate Consent" option on all 9000 cookie vendors. There never seems to be a "No to all" button on those.

The "legitimate interest" part of GDPR is just horrifically abused by so many companies, who act like it's a magic two words which allow them to collect personal information without consent because they said "ooooh we really do have a legitimate reason for this data" which is against both the spirit and the wording of the GDPR.

I really hope to see a few big cases where the EU fines companies for that, so that everyone else gets the picture and stops hiding behind legitimate fucking interest. But I don't know why that hasn't happened yet, hopefully it's just slow moving rather than a case of the laws implementing GDPR being fuzzy enough that countries are worried they wouldn't win the case in courts. (But if that were the case, hurry up and update the law!)

/side note: apologies on behalf of my profession, since it's largely marketing people who've led to these shitty practises. We're not all assholes, some of us do respect people's data, rights, and (lack of-)consent.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by saaaaaam »

vel0city wrote: post #72
qingcharles wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Metric in many things, and I was taught metric exclusively through school in the early 80s in England. Road signs and limits all still in miles exclusively. People still refer to each other in feet and inches although official stuff often wants cms. TVs still in inches. It's not as bad as America, because Brits have a very solid understand of metric and tend to use it whenever we can, but still needs work :(

I definitely acknowledge I don't live there so I can't truly know, but I feel like I'd just prefer to live in a region where everything is consistent instead of constantly changing units all the time. We want to talk meters? Sure, We want to talk miles? That's fine. But something like "Ipswitch is 90km from Cambridge, you're going 40 miles per hour, how long till you get there?" just seems annoying to me, more annoyi…

British recipes use ml. You’d rarely see a pint in a British recipe unless ir was quite old. American recipes use pints and - even more insane - cups.

British distance is measured in miles unless it’s a short distance under half a mile in which it’s metres or unless it’s someone old in which case it will be yards or feet. Of a horse race, in which case it’s yards and furlongs.

Land is measured in acres but industrial land in hectares.

Rooms are measured in feet and inches unless it’s for official purposes in which case it’s metres.

Liquid is measured in ml and litres unless it’s beer - which is measured in pints - or petrol which is measured in litres but talked about in gallons.

If you buy a fish you will weight it in grams and kilos. If you catch a fish you’ll measure it in pounds and ounces.

Buy suits and shirts and you measure in inches. Buy the cloth to make it yourself and it’s measured in linear metres.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by sbierwagen »

UberFly wrote: post #86

I'm always surprised we don't see more car console "Blue Screens" reported. Weird reboots mid-drive and such.

Infamously, some Mazda infotainment systems crashed when a Seattle area radio station left off a file extension in a metadata broadcast https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/mazda_radios_images/

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by freedomben »

meepmorp wrote: post #64
kyriakos wrote: post #47

I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.

I enjoy the corporate sense of comedic timing that went into the decision to have it wait till you're driving again.

My guess is it's all about liability, and possibly regulation. Nowadays our culture demands that products force people to be safe, rather than expecting people to choose to be safe and accepting the consequences if they mess up.

I wish I could laugh at the idiocy, but it's too personal and enfuriating to me to be funny. The enraging thing for me is that it makes my car unusable for the passenger even though that person isn't even driving!!! A human is so much better at making that decision at drive-time than the dumb software. At least use the damn airbag sensor in the seat, and if there's a passenger, let them use the controls!!!

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

RajT88 wrote: post #18

Just FYI - you can replace your head unit even on newer cars. There's a bustling aftermarket industry for this kind of stuff: https://www.belsee.com/android-car-radio/hyundai-radio.html This way - your data gets abused by the Chinese government instead of Hyundai! (I kid, sort of, but these head units let you exert more control over your car, as they often ship rooted, or can be rooted) If you DIY install the head un…

Both of my older vehicles have aftermarket head units and I absolutely love them. It's definitely a lot of faff to get them in and working, but a few hundred dollars and some frustrating weekends beats buying an entire new car loaded to the gills with spyware that wants a subscription fee for it's heated seats.

And you don't need to worry about the chinese government if you just never connect the things to the internet, which I never do. They are a conveyance for CarPlay access and nothing more.

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