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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by kwhitefoot »

lunias wrote: post #61

I cannot believe the amount of screens that have been allowed into cars. Touchscreens that beckon not only for your attention, but also your interaction are somehow fine to just put wherever in the car. It's illegal to use my phone for non hands-free calls while driving (technically, but it's not even remotely enforced) but it's okay to use my television-sized device connected to my phone because it's integrated into…

Such messages never appear in my Tesla S while I am driving. They only appear when the car has the parking brake applied. The only messages that appear while driving are relevant for me and appear in well defined locations, they do not obscure the rest of the screen.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by vel0city »

qingcharles wrote: post #51
gwbas1c wrote: post #22

What country do they drive in MPH with the steering wheel on the right side of the car? I've heard a lot of references to "miles" in British culture, but I assumed that was habits of older people. I thought the UK was all metric by now?

Metric in many things, and I was taught metric exclusively through school in the early 80s in England. Road signs and limits all still in miles exclusively. People still refer to each other in feet and inches although official stuff often wants cms. TVs still in inches. It's not as bad as America, because Brits have a very solid understand of metric and tend to use it whenever we can, but still needs work :(

I definitely acknowledge I don't live there so I can't truly know, but I feel like I'd just prefer to live in a region where everything is consistent instead of constantly changing units all the time. We want to talk meters? Sure, We want to talk miles? That's fine. But something like "Ipswitch is 90km from Cambridge, you're going 40 miles per hour, how long till you get there?" just seems annoying to me, more annoying than just saying its like 55 miles and you're going 40 miles an hour so it'll be just under 50 minutes or so.

Or like a recipe calls for 1 pint of something that you've got 500mL containers of. Do you bother opening another 500mL container for that last 68mL?

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by ReptileMan »

josefresco wrote: post #6

Reminds my of when I tried to resurrect and old DJI drone with an out of date iPad mini for a controller. I turn on drone, launch the app and try several times to take off and fail. Try one last time assuming failure and it starts to take off! But then... Just as the drone starts to drift towards me, several notifications pop up within the app/iOS preventing control and sending me into a panic. Drone hits the house s…

I remember how I had once unimportant android service crashing that was set to instantly restart the service. And always gave the warning and you had to click ok - made the whole phone unusable until factory reset. Ok, half a second later ok. It was system. Couldn't be disabled - not that you could even get to the apps menu.

What kind of team of engineers thought that this kind of stupidity was a good idea.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by kwhitefoot »

1270018080 wrote: post #19
_moof wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend works in environmental science and his advice when it comes to cars and climate is to keep your car for as long as possible, regardless of gas vs. electric. Obviously YMMV but generally speaking the emissions "cost" of manufacturing and delivering the car in the first place is huge, and the way the numbers work out, it's better to amortize that over as long a time as you can than it is to frequently buy a re…

I like the idea that plug-in hybrids are the best choice. Battery supply is the limiting factor, so 100 plug-in hybrids that can do 50 miles of electric driving are overall better than 10 electrics that can do 500 miles. Especially since basically 99% of drives are under 50 miles.

Plug in hybrids would be the best choice if anyone actually plugged them in. Most PHEVs here in Norway are leased and exist only because they are cheaper than the petrol version. The leasing companies say that only a small fraction of them are ever charged.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by hef19898 »

Yaggo wrote: post #49
capableweb wrote: post #36

Is there any car company or car accessory company that could get things like this correct? Not even Apple can get it correct it seems, as in CarPlay, if there is a incoming call, it covers the entire screen with the person/info who is calling, so if you're using navigation, until you either reject the call or pick up, it hides the maps behind the notification...

Tesla does excellent job here.

Tesla would actually be an example of how not to do software for safety relevant, embedded systems.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by gnicholas »

My Ford CMAX tries to update its software when I'm driving. It often attempts for a while, then fails, then loops and tries again (ad infinitum). When this happens, I am locked out of accessing navigation, music controls, etc. At least I still have knobs for climate control.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by mnahkies »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #42
tomxor wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd pay to just not have one, but I'm not even sure that's possible any more. I'm really not looking forward to when I'm forced to buy a new car - few things make me more mad than smartphone tech with universally slow and terrible UX, duck-taped onto machines, let alone dangerous machines.

Seriously. I have zero use for a touch screen in a car. Maps? When I drive I look at... the road. If I need directions, google maps can tell me to turn left etc by voice commands.

Eh I'm anti touch screen controls, but as a motorcyclist driving in a foreign country relying on voice directions I need the visual input too. There's a big difference between audio only directions for a spaghetti junction and being able to glance at the visual and combine that with the audio.

You take your eyes off the road all the time doing head checks (blind spot checks), so long as you're not staring at the map I think the benefit of being sure about where you're going is safer

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by boatsie »

samtho wrote: post #59
josefresco wrote: post #6

Reminds my of when I tried to resurrect and old DJI drone with an out of date iPad mini for a controller. I turn on drone, launch the app and try several times to take off and fail. Try one last time assuming failure and it starts to take off! But then... Just as the drone starts to drift towards me, several notifications pop up within the app/iOS preventing control and sending me into a panic. Drone hits the house s…

Instead of legislating pop over messages to happen (looking at cookie messages), we just need to legislate these trash interruptions away. I didn’t begin using the device I purchased to be interrupted by something that had literally no bearing on my life, I cannot effectively use the device if I decline, and the existence of such can cause harm if I am working with something sensitive.

on that note, is anyone ever voluntarily, knowingly clicking the “accept all” other than to dismiss these? Like why not just legislate that you can’t do the kind of tracking they are asking because I’m pretty sure literally nobody wants it…

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by gnicholas »

RajT88 wrote: post #18

Just FYI - you can replace your head unit even on newer cars. There's a bustling aftermarket industry for this kind of stuff: https://www.belsee.com/android-car-radio/hyundai-radio.html This way - your data gets abused by the Chinese government instead of Hyundai! (I kid, sort of, but these head units let you exert more control over your car, as they often ship rooted, or can be rooted) If you DIY install the head un…

In some cars this means you are unable to hear the beeping of the proximity sensors. I would guess that you'd also lose any 360° camera views as well.
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