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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Whoa now, slow down there. Ban some of what TikTok's doing and enforce it fairly? Sure. But let's not actually get more authoritarian here.

What next, we'll legislate away selling drugs to kids? I mean, kids have rights to the most addictive stuff known to mankind, too.

>What next, we'll legislate away selling drugs to kids?

And that worked out great; drug use among kids nowadays is way higher than it was in past, the drug industry is larger than ever, and cartel violence is killing countless more kids in the third world than drugs ever killed.

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Is EU the only significant power on this planet that isn't ... for a lack of better word, evil?

The EU's behavior during the Greek debt crisis was pretty evil. Imagine if a US state were in serious debt, and the US federal response were to slash Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare benefits to the state. The EU view was that Greece should get out of debt by massively slashing government spending, including on virtually all social services, which sent the country spiralling into a Great-Depression-level econom…

I agree that European lenders went overboard, but I can't blame them for requiring strict measures after the corrupt government of one member state threatened the economic stability of the entire EU bloc.

Years of government mismanagement and fraudulent reports had put Greece in a state where nobody reputable would lend them money, in extreme debt, and without an economy to recover by itself any time soon.

Greece could've decided not to take up the bailouts, of course. All austerity packages were passed by the democratically elected Greek parliament.

The EU would've liked Greece to magically go out of debt, but it's not like they were just going to hand the Greek government hundreds of billions of gifts and a pat on the back with a quick "try not to go bankrupt again, OK?". If you lend someone money, you want some kind of guarantee that you're going to get it back. The EU wasn't being evil, it was watching its own back while the worldwide economy took a hit. They weren't alone either; the IMF also demanded reforms to ensure their loans got paid back down the line.

At every step along the way, the Greek government was involved, including causing the instability in the first place. There are plenty of evil things the EU and its many bodies do, but this wasn't a good example.

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This is a good start, but I'm going to be very curious to see if EU data law ever starts getting enforced against european companies at scale, as opposed to international companies.

Lots of European companies have gotten fined. But also, primarily European companies did generally take it a lot more seriously than multinationals. (Sometimes too seriously; while this has calmed down a bit, you'll sometimes see companies enforcing absolutely absurd policies around data on the basis that they incorrectly think they're required for compliance).

In my experience, this is absolutely not true. Sometimes mind-boggling so.

For example, it was US companies that stopped serving ads until they had GDPR infrastructure in place, while some very bad actors in the UK where not collecting consent at all.

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The Netherlands DPA has fined CP&A, an unnamed orthodontic clinic, Transavia, a local political party, the municipality of Enschede, Booking.com B.V. (yes, Booking.com is Dutch), OLVG (a hospital), a redacted data trader, the Dutch national tennis association, an insurance company, another hospital, a semi-governmental organisation and 7 governmental bodies. Some of these do business in foreign countries, but all of…

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> i guess europeans are used to losing out This is a naive take. I wish we Americans had "lost out" on Facebook, because the world would be a better place if we had.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/14/black-refugees-stra... The EU is rich and safe and will commit whatever atrocities to maintain it.

I'm confused. What's the connection?

The EU has made a deal, investing massive amounts of money into North African countries to keep refugees from crossing the sea. The EU representatives negotiating the deal knew exactly what was going on, even before the deal was happening.

There's no easy solution to the mass immigration problem, but this "solution" makes things worse for everyone.

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The Netherlands DPA has fined CP&A, an unnamed orthodontic clinic, Transavia, a local political party, the municipality of Enschede, Booking.com B.V. (yes, Booking.com is Dutch), OLVG (a hospital), a redacted data trader, the Dutch national tennis association, an insurance company, another hospital, a semi-governmental organisation and 7 governmental bodies. Some of these do business in foreign countries, but all of…

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Just stop trolling...

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So you haven't researched the actual fines and warnings the EU gave out to EU and non-EU companies. but you just feel like the vibes are totally off? I was really expecting better comments from hackernews. If we're talking about vibes you should acknowledge that it makes sense for the EU to protect their people and their personal information from really large foreign companies. Even more so from companies that are al…

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you know how it's not too much? they can afford it.

What a deranged idea, you're implying it's okay to bankrupt a company just for a minor privacy violation.

i think it's deranged that you feel privacy violations are minor in any form. also, this isn't a first offense

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>Good research No. All I did was opening enforcement tracker, click on France, and look for familiar names. It was faster than writing my previous comment. I knew about one of the Carrefour cases, and the Criteo case though. >The authoritarianism and the insanity of the laws in the first place is/are a far bigger problem What is authoritarian or insane in GDPR? Or its previous iteration, the DPD (from 1995)? Oh no, w…

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