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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by kibwen »

kmlx wrote: post #86
kibwen wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If respecting privacy prevents tech companies from forming, then we should all be celebrating when those tech companies fail to form.

this is a naive take. companies will still be formed. they will just http 451 all EU users. like threads does right now. this will also mean losing out, but i guess europeans are used to losing out, and actually prefer it?

> i guess europeans are used to losing out

This is a naive take. I wish we Americans had "lost out" on Facebook, because the world would be a better place if we had.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by logicchains »

kmlx wrote: post #86
kibwen wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If respecting privacy prevents tech companies from forming, then we should all be celebrating when those tech companies fail to form.

this is a naive take. companies will still be formed. they will just http 451 all EU users. like threads does right now. this will also mean losing out, but i guess europeans are used to losing out, and actually prefer it?

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by itishappy »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #214
darthrupert wrote: post #69

Is EU the only significant power on this planet that isn't ... for a lack of better word, evil?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/14/black-refugees-stra... The EU is rich and safe and will commit whatever atrocities to maintain it.

I'm confused. What's the connection?

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by Timon3 »

interactivecode wrote: post #208
personomas wrote: post #177

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So you haven't researched the actual fines and warnings the EU gave out to EU and non-EU companies. but you just feel like the vibes are totally off? I was really expecting better comments from hackernews. If we're talking about vibes you should acknowledge that it makes sense for the EU to protect their people and their personal information from really large foreign companies. Even more so from companies that are al…

> I was really expecting better comments from hackernews.

You really shouldn't on topics related to the EU. There is an incredible amount of misinformation peddled, and asking for sources or actual analysis beyond simple statements that keep being repeated is usually met with either silence or insults.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by tgv »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #214
darthrupert wrote: post #69

Is EU the only significant power on this planet that isn't ... for a lack of better word, evil?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/14/black-refugees-stra... The EU is rich and safe and will commit whatever atrocities to maintain it.

That link is only related to the EU in so far as that those people were probably trying to enter it, illegally.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by cccbbbaaa »

personomas wrote: post #177
cccbbbaaa wrote: post #175

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France against french companies: 40M€ for Criteo, 1M€ for Total, 1M+€ for AG2R, 2M€ and 800000€ for Carrefour, 600000€ for EDF, same for Accor, two 300000€ fines for Free, 125000€ for CityScoot, 500000€ for Brico Privé, 400000€ for the RATP. Perhaps others, didn't bother to check any further.

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>Good research

No. All I did was opening enforcement tracker, click on France, and look for familiar names. It was faster than writing my previous comment. I knew about one of the Carrefour cases, and the Criteo case though.

>The authoritarianism and the insanity of the laws in the first place is/are a far bigger problem

What is authoritarian or insane in GDPR? Or its previous iteration, the DPD (from 1995)? Oh no, we expect companies to handle personal data with care, the horror.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by logicchains »

kibwen wrote: post #231
kmlx wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is a naive take. companies will still be formed. they will just http 451 all EU users. like threads does right now. this will also mean losing out, but i guess europeans are used to losing out, and actually prefer it?

> i guess europeans are used to losing out This is a naive take. I wish we Americans had "lost out" on Facebook, because the world would be a better place if we had.

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by autoexec »

silvestrov wrote: post #212
yumraj wrote: post #196

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Well add a 3 strikes law [0], after all corporations are supposed to be person, from a legal standpoint. 3 strikes, and the company is dissolved. In fact, this should definitely happen for US credit rating companies which keep on leaking data. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-strikes_law

I think a 3 strike against the CxO as a person will be more effective. 1st strike blocks you from working as CxO for 5 years, 2nd strike for 10 years, 3rd strike is forever. Right now too many bad CxO jump from one ship to the next again and again.

When a CxO gets their 2nd or 3rd company broken up they'll find it very hard to find a ship willing to let them on board.

If you let the company get away with crimes over and over and only punish a CxO the company will simply hire a guy to take the fall for them. There's an endless number of people working minimum wage who would happily take a CxO title and salary for years knowing full well that there's a chance they might get fired eventually.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by logicchains »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #217
wooger wrote: post #194

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An appropriate punishment would be: All children's accounts must be deleted and no new ones for minors allowed to exist for 2 years. Any further infringement and the App is banned from the EU.

This would require all TikTok users to submit selfie + ID for verification and all those who don't would need to be assumed to be children and have their accounts deleted, right?

That's the end goal, so anonymity is basically destroyed on the internet, and people are condemned to digital dystopia and inescapable surveillance under the guise of "protecting the children".

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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mym1990 wrote: post #174

Any breaking of the law in regards to children needs to absolutely incinerate the offending party, this fine seems like a drop in the bucket. Kids these days are bombarded by terrible industry practices because companies know if they can get a child hooked, they could be a customer for life(or at least a period of time in their adulthood). In the US, kids are advertised to at literally every corner of their life...in…

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