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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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The EU should go further: ban TikTok. And regulate social media to death.

Whoa now, slow down there. Ban some of what TikTok's doing and enforce it fairly? Sure. But let's not actually get more authoritarian here.

Bearing in mind that TikTok is itself banned in China. ;)

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They'll just write bigger golden parachutes into their contacts to offset the risk. That or suddenly everyone is an EVP and the C levels all are just paid fall guys. But 25% revenue might work.

Well add a 3 strikes law [0], after all corporations are supposed to be person, from a legal standpoint. 3 strikes, and the company is dissolved. In fact, this should definitely happen for US credit rating companies which keep on leaking data. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-strikes_law

I think a 3 strike against the CxO as a person will be more effective.

1st strike blocks you from working as CxO for 5 years, 2nd strike for 10 years, 3rd strike is forever.

Right now too many bad CxO jump from one ship to the next again and again.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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I'm not sure what to think. I can't read anything about Max Schrems and his team forcing them to enforce the law... Curious, for Ireland.

So either they've woken up to the same reality the rest of us inhabit, or their inhibition to do their job doesn't apply to Chinese companies...

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Is EU the only significant power on this planet that isn't ... for a lack of better word, evil?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/14/black-refugees-stra...

The EU is rich and safe and will commit whatever atrocities to maintain it.

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oppress /əˈprɛs/ verb keep (someone) in subjection and hardship, especially by the unjust exercise of authority. I can't agree that TikTok or other recipients of such fingers could yet be considered to be in "subjection and hardship". Nor would I consider the fines so far issued to be particularly unjust.

Large corporations are definitely being subject to *unjust* exercise of authority. "Hardship" on a corporation doesn't really apply at the scale of very large corporations because the "hardship" is spread out among the many, many shareholders and stakeholders of the successful company; of course, it's not to be seen - it's a relatively successfully company being attacked, in comparison to non-successful companies not…

The relevant regulatory authorities at national and European level decided that the company had breached the law of the land and applied the appropriate fine based on that law. Would you agree with that?

It's fair to take issue with the GDPR itself, or how e.g. the people working at the Irish DPC are selected or something like that. While I have sympathy for criticisms of the system, these are free democratic entities which rule by consent (rather that tyranny) and they're applying law that was written by a great many people across many legitimate institutions. That looks like "justice" to me, unless you feel it contravenes some natural law. If you think it does this, please explain the relevant principle under which you find the fine unjust.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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post #160

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The EU should go further: ban TikTok. And regulate social media to death.

Whoa now, slow down there. Ban some of what TikTok's doing and enforce it fairly? Sure. But let's not actually get more authoritarian here.

What next, we'll legislate away selling drugs to kids? I mean, kids have rights to the most addictive stuff known to mankind, too.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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What sort of fine would you consider not to be a drop in the bucket? This fine looks to be an estimated 1/8 of TikTok's profit in 2022.

An appropriate punishment would be: All children's accounts must be deleted and no new ones for minors allowed to exist for 2 years. Any further infringement and the App is banned from the EU.

This would require all TikTok users to submit selfie + ID for verification and all those who don't would need to be assumed to be children and have their accounts deleted, right?

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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post #194

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What sort of fine would you consider not to be a drop in the bucket? This fine looks to be an estimated 1/8 of TikTok's profit in 2022.

An appropriate punishment would be: All children's accounts must be deleted and no new ones for minors allowed to exist for 2 years. Any further infringement and the App is banned from the EU.

How's that supposed to be enforced if the kids lie about their ages?

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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> Why can we not put the burden on the parents? You'd like the EU to regulate... parenting?

One thing that I find funny is that when I want to adopt a dog I'm screened meanwhile a drug addict or pedophile can have children no questions asked.

If the government knows somebody is a danger to children, they can't just have kids. In the UK at least, they'll be taken into state social care.

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https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ Ironically, currently 2023 entries.

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The Netherlands DPA has fined CP&A, an unnamed orthodontic clinic, Transavia, a local political party, the municipality of Enschede, Booking.com B.V. (yes, Booking.com is Dutch), OLVG (a hospital), a redacted data trader, the Dutch national tennis association, an insurance company, another hospital, a semi-governmental organisation and 7 governmental bodies.

Some of these do business in foreign countries, but all of them are unmistakably Dutch.

I've left out the largest news organisation in the Netherlands, the Belgian company BPG Media, but they have bought up a bunch of local news organisations.

Non-EU-originating companies on the list: - Tiktok - locatefamily.com

Tiktok got fined by the Dutch DPA for not providing their privacy statement in Dutch while still doing business in the Netherlands. Further research into Tiktok was transferred to the Irish DPA (this fine). I suppose the Dutch DPA could've lodged a complaint with the Irish DPA for not providing the necessary documents in Dutch, but that seems rather silly to me.

locatefamily.com did not have EU representation at all so there was no need to process the complaint anywhere else. I doubt the fine will ever be collected, but who knows, maybe the owners are stupid enough to open a business in Europe somewhere down the line.

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