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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by rsynnott »

InTheArena wrote: post #70

This is a good start, but I'm going to be very curious to see if EU data law ever starts getting enforced against european companies at scale, as opposed to international companies.

Lots of European companies have gotten fined.

But also, primarily European companies did generally take it a lot more seriously than multinationals. (Sometimes too seriously; while this has calmed down a bit, you'll sometimes see companies enforcing absolutely absurd policies around data on the basis that they incorrectly think they're required for compliance).

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by cbg0 »

miohtama wrote: post #114
darthrupert wrote: post #69

Is EU the only significant power on this planet that isn't ... for a lack of better word, evil?

The EU is about to vote banning on end-to-end encryption which makes them quite evil in my books. https://www.wired.com/story/europe-break-encryption-leaked-d...

That's the whole point of a democracy, you vote on things like this. The flip side is that anyone can put to a vote all sorts of stupid things they don't understand.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by Lacerda69 »

personomas wrote: post #134
esarbe wrote: post #115

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You keep throwing around the "unbelievable" and "unreasonable" fines. Why do you think that these fines are "unbelievable" and "unreasonable"? Because for me they are rather on the low side, given the business practices, the reach and the potential for abuse that these companies have.

1) They stopped it 3 years when their was an inquiry. 2) 2.6% of revenue for a company that isn't even profitable. 3) 2.6% of revenue for a global company, how much of this then is only EU revenue?? Are they supposed to get their legs cut off just for breaking one law of the 5 million that they're suppose to comply with? 4) This was a first offense for this company. 5) They're not doing anything harmful with the data…

>Are they supposed to get their legs cut off just for breaking one law

Yes, they wont learn otherwise.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by personomas »

mschild wrote: post #109
personomas wrote: post #74

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What would you propose? TikTok is a massive corporation. They were either negligent or purposefully broke the law.

You don't have to do anything if they change, and they did. Written and formal notification to change their policy. Then if it still happens one small fine of IDK 100,000 EUR would be enough.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by cbg0 »

bsaul wrote: post #12

i'm starting to feel like the EU found a business model to compensate for the fiscal tricks large companies are doing to avoid paying taxes. My only hope is that those laws won't prevent a new major high tech company to appear in the EU.

This would be the stupidest way to compensate for tax avoidance. If the EU really wants to curb that, they have other ways to do it.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by rsynnott »

personomas wrote: post #103
izacus wrote: post #94

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It's absolutely trivial to confirm that EU countries get fined all the time: https://www.privacyaffairs.com/gdpr-fines/

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If you ignore Ireland and Luxembourg there (most of the big multinationals are subject to one or the other), then you'll get a much more balanced picture. For most of the countries, most of the top offenders are European.

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Post by personomas »

hef19898 wrote: post #137
personomas wrote: post #128

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Headquarted countries founded in the EU? Please, tell me more, I always wanted my own nationstate!

Obviously I meant to write "companies" not countries. (fixed.)

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by cbg0 »

boringg wrote: post #43

Drop in the bucket. Meaningless if anything a way for the EU regulators to wave the flag that they are maybe doing something but not so much as to take on TikTok

The point of a fine is to discourage bad behavior, not to financially ruin a company.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by personomas »

rsynnott wrote: post #146
personomas wrote: post #103

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If you ignore Ireland and Luxembourg there (most of the big multinationals are subject to one or the other), then you'll get a much more balanced picture. For most of the countries, most of the top offenders are European.

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by [deleted] »

wincy wrote: post #88
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #79

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It does get enforced against European companies, they just don't make HN headlines because they're not big-tech so nobody here would have heard of them. Also EU companies tend to be more mindful and take data protection very seriously, even before GDPR was a thing, so finding gross offenders is a rare occurrence anyway.

Isn’t SAP absolutely massive? Surely they count as big tech. Edit: for anyone wondering SAP has ~110,000 employees worldwide, Google has ~180,000, so comparably mega scale tech company.

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