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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by valenterry »

personomas wrote: post #118
valenterry wrote: post #90

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Look, those apps can work without collecting any PII whatsoever. But if they make collecting PII part of their main revenue, then they should take the laws in their respective markets (countries) serious. Since TikTok implemented the required changes and also (apparently) did not complain about the policies themselves (e.g. being to complicated/ambiguous to implement) it really looks like it is solely on them. They v…

It's a social media platform, of course they need PII. We need to relax all laws. Our laws are unbelievable cruel. Business are expected to follow so so so many bureaucratic laws. To fine them 2.6% every time they break one is insane. Imagine how many countries there are out there, how many business laws there are, how much they have to comply with. A lot of these companies already operate on extremely thin margins.…

> It's a social media platform, of course they need PII.

No they don't. Remember MySpace? Worked perfectly without PII.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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endisneigh wrote: post #64

seems dumb. there's nothing stopping a child from lying about their age anyways. how about parents who care about such things just block the TikTok app for their children? if TikTok simply had an age selection box, and if you choose anything under 18 it said "too bad. wait until you're 18", I'm sure all of those children would say, "gee darn it, guess I'll wait" :eyeroll. This sort of nonsense is why government's are…

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by rsynnott »

personomas wrote: post #74
mschild wrote: post #55

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GDPR doesn't go far enough and I think courts need to hand out significantly more fines. Yes, that fine is a lot. It's supposed to be high. That's the only way that fines work. If it doesn't hurt a company's bottom line, they don't learn.

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No, because, realistically, jaywalking is not a serious problem (it's not even an offence in some places). However, this sort of thing _is_ a serious problem.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by personomas »

esarbe wrote: post #115
personomas wrote: post #85

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You keep throwing around the "unbelievable" and "unreasonable" fines. Why do you think that these fines are "unbelievable" and "unreasonable"? Because for me they are rather on the low side, given the business practices, the reach and the potential for abuse that these companies have.

1) They stopped it 3 years when their was an inquiry.

2) 2.6% of revenue for a company that isn't even profitable.

3) 2.6% of revenue for a global company, how much of this then is only EU revenue?? Are they supposed to get their legs cut off just for breaking one law of the 5 million that they're suppose to comply with?

4) This was a first offense for this company.

5) They're not doing anything harmful with the data. It's a social media platform. We need to relax. The burden should be on the parents.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by hef19898 »

esarbe wrote: post #117
izietto wrote: post #92

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SAP isn't a social platform, it isn't even B2C, so they don't really relate to GDPR

The GDPR applies to all companies, social network platforms or not. It's not even about the internet in particular, it's about how companies can store and process private information of EU citizens.

SAP is B2B, the vast majoritybof personal data is professional (supplier and customer business contacts) and emoloyee data (payroll and such). Not much to fine here. Also, since SAP as a company isn't handling any of that data, SAP isn't really affected.

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Post by hef19898 »

personomas wrote: post #128
_puk wrote: post #125

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https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ Ironically, currently 2023 entries.

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Headquarted countries founded in the EU? Please, tell me more, I always wanted my own nationstate!

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by rsynnott »

esarbe wrote: post #117
izietto wrote: post #92

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SAP isn't a social platform, it isn't even B2C, so they don't really relate to GDPR

The GDPR applies to all companies, social network platforms or not. It's not even about the internet in particular, it's about how companies can store and process private information of EU citizens.

Sure, but SAP's business model doesn't depend on doing as much privacy violation as they can get away with (this is basically the business model of all adtech) so they're far less likely to fall afoul of the GDPR. The main risk to a company like SAP would be _accidentally_ falling afoul of the law; this tends to happen where companies are grossly negligent in their handling of personal data, and this is then exposed in a major leak.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by sidlls »

personomas wrote: post #20
ta1243 wrote: post #14

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They know how to comply, but that would hurt their bottom line.

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“I stopped stabbing him once I knew laws against murder were in place, and haven’t stabbed him since!”

That’s what your argument sounds like to me.

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