I am going to give this a shot but I am not sure what's the attraction anymore with Copilot + LSP. - Auto-completion: However smart it is, it can't beat copilot. - Type information: LSP can do that. (along with access to docs, error/warning highlighting, etc..) - Debugger: There isn't a good one (or at least a good one that can be easily configured) for neovim yet. That's something I really miss for my toolbox. - Car…
RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
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Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#112This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…
> new UI project It’s incredible to me how many people choose VS Code because of its aesthetics, so it is by all means the right thing to focus on.
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately debugging Rust (or C/C++ programs for that matter) is limited to CLion even if you have an IDEA Ultimate license. I don't know why. I have an all products license so it's not a blocker but I wish they would just make ultimate, truly ultimate.
But then it would be a lowest common denominator type thing, or a "Homer Simpson car" I just want to automatically share my transferable preferences between IDEs
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's really interesting. What makes VSCode's aesthetic so distinctive and appealing? As an infrequent user of it, I don't really see how it stands out. (The main things that stand out about it to me as an Emacs user is that it has pop-ups/nags/splash tabs that I have to dismiss whenever I open it.)
Not the person you were replying to but I've found VS Code treads the right line for me between editor and IDE. It feels like a text editor first and the UI is pretty similar to SumblimeText and TextMate which I used before, neither of which had much in the way of IDE features. But I think the reason VS Code has become so popular is that along with its editor centric UI it has Emacs like extensibility. Plugins are ea…
In VS Code, I usually see a file explorer, the files I have open, the Problems panel and a terminal panel. All of the other stuff is hidden behind sections that, when clicked, simply replace the file explorer. Far less visual clutter
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Talking about bazel (or buck, etc.), I wish there was a JetBrains IDE that supports all languages.
That would be “Fleet” ( https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/ )., which is still in early preview. I tried it out 3 or 4 months ago, and I didn’t find it useful, nor familiar - kind of feels like a VSCode wannabe. It was disappointing to see, as I am really tired of running multiple IDEs to work on mixed language projects.
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#116Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's how all their IDEs work. It's all the same software with different sets of allowed plugins. I would also argue that their IDEs are largely mature, feature-complete software. I'm quite happy they haven't succumbed to the modern trend of reorganize all the menus every 6 months.
That's how all their IDEs work. It's all the same software with different sets of allowed plugins. From where did you get this idea -- basic use? It most certainly is not this to as great a degree as you might like to think. Source: JB employee.
There's nothing wrong with selling sets of plugins by the way. I don't really get why it must be different IDEs though.
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#118Stuff like this makes me happy I left the JetBrains ecosystem years ago.
Trouble is it depends what you program.
For example if you're a Go coder, then JetBrains GoLand has no competition.
Sure you might try VSCode with various extensions, but its not the same. GoLand enables you to be much more productive because of its first-class integration with Go.
The only reason some people use VSCode instead of GoLand for Go coding is because its free. There's no real reason to use it otherwise.
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jetbrains has plenty of extensions (1st party, high quality plugins that are far better than some of the 1st party Microsoft plugins) and no one cares if it's by Microsoft (what does "commondize code editors" even mean? Do you really think any vscode users care?). Honestly, I doubt most people even care it's kind-of open source (1). > 1. Free This is the reason most people use vscode. That's it. It's free, and it's p…
> Honestly, I doubt most people even care it's kind-of open source (1). Average users might not care. But extension authors do. Yes, of course you can write extensions for close source projects, but it'd take longer to do "hacky" things since you'll need to read decompiled code / memory stack to understand its internals. I remember a very popular extension used a private field (and later broke because VSCode changed…
Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE
#120This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…