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RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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I am going to give this a shot but I am not sure what's the attraction anymore with Copilot + LSP. - Auto-completion: However smart it is, it can't beat copilot. - Type information: LSP can do that. (along with access to docs, error/warning highlighting, etc..) - Debugger: There isn't a good one (or at least a good one that can be easily configured) for neovim yet. That's something I really miss for my toolbox. - Car…

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Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

> new UI project It’s incredible to me how many people choose VS Code because of its aesthetics, so it is by all means the right thing to focus on.

Yep I only recently started to using CLion bc I find the new UI to be much more comfortable

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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Unfortunately debugging Rust (or C/C++ programs for that matter) is limited to CLion even if you have an IDEA Ultimate license. I don't know why. I have an all products license so it's not a blocker but I wish they would just make ultimate, truly ultimate.

But then it would be a lowest common denominator type thing, or a "Homer Simpson car" I just want to automatically share my transferable preferences between IDEs

If you mean between Jetbrains IDEs, you can. It's called Settings Sync in the settings menu.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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That's really interesting. What makes VSCode's aesthetic so distinctive and appealing? As an infrequent user of it, I don't really see how it stands out. (The main things that stand out about it to me as an Emacs user is that it has pop-ups/nags/splash tabs that I have to dismiss whenever I open it.)

Not the person you were replying to but I've found VS Code treads the right line for me between editor and IDE. It feels like a text editor first and the UI is pretty similar to SumblimeText and TextMate which I used before, neither of which had much in the way of IDE features. But I think the reason VS Code has become so popular is that along with its editor centric UI it has Emacs like extensibility. Plugins are ea…

I agree completely. I switch between VS Code and IntelliJ at work so I'm comfortable with both but I would also call the UI in IntelliJ overwhelming. It's covered in buttons, panels coming out in all directions, the Git UI doesn't integrate with the normal file view which makes everything feel cramped when I access it, I've got a variety of pop-ups coming up for all sorts of things, etc.

In VS Code, I usually see a file explorer, the files I have open, the Problems panel and a terminal panel. All of the other stuff is hidden behind sections that, when clicked, simply replace the file explorer. Far less visual clutter

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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Talking about bazel (or buck, etc.), I wish there was a JetBrains IDE that supports all languages.

That would be “Fleet” ( https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/ )., which is still in early preview. I tried it out 3 or 4 months ago, and I didn’t find it useful, nor familiar - kind of feels like a VSCode wannabe. It was disappointing to see, as I am really tired of running multiple IDEs to work on mixed language projects.

It sounds like you just want Intellij Ultimate. Fleet is explicitly aiming to be VS Code like while Ultimate is just regular Intellij with access to most language plug-ins.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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That's how all their IDEs work. It's all the same software with different sets of allowed plugins. I would also argue that their IDEs are largely mature, feature-complete software. I'm quite happy they haven't succumbed to the modern trend of reorganize all the menus every 6 months.

That's how all their IDEs work. It's all the same software with different sets of allowed plugins. From where did you get this idea -- basic use? It most certainly is not this to as great a degree as you might like to think. Source: JB employee.

Could you get into more detail please? From my (brief) experience with your products I think the differences are indeed mostly in the plugins, apart from cosmetic / UX ones, like different keyboard shortcuts (which by the way never made sense to me).

There's nothing wrong with selling sets of plugins by the way. I don't really get why it must be different IDEs though.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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Stuff like this makes me happy I left the JetBrains ecosystem years ago.

> Stuff like this makes me happy I left the JetBrains ecosystem years ago.

Trouble is it depends what you program.

For example if you're a Go coder, then JetBrains GoLand has no competition.

Sure you might try VSCode with various extensions, but its not the same. GoLand enables you to be much more productive because of its first-class integration with Go.

The only reason some people use VSCode instead of GoLand for Go coding is because its free. There's no real reason to use it otherwise.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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Jetbrains has plenty of extensions (1st party, high quality plugins that are far better than some of the 1st party Microsoft plugins) and no one cares if it's by Microsoft (what does "commondize code editors" even mean? Do you really think any vscode users care?). Honestly, I doubt most people even care it's kind-of open source (1). > 1. Free This is the reason most people use vscode. That's it. It's free, and it's p…

> Honestly, I doubt most people even care it's kind-of open source (1). Average users might not care. But extension authors do. Yes, of course you can write extensions for close source projects, but it'd take longer to do "hacky" things since you'll need to read decompiled code / memory stack to understand its internals. I remember a very popular extension used a private field (and later broke because VSCode changed…

Note that IntelliJ Platform itself is open source.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

On the other other hand, I switched from Visual Studio to Rider and it's embarrasing just how much better Rider is as a .net/C# IDE than the first party IDE. They're already so far ahead of Microsoft that "super slow" still has them doing laps about them.
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