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>Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now. Reasonably, too. Governments seem reluctant to actually regulate anti-competitive behavior these days, especially from tech giants. I think it must be a kind of technological "too big to fail".
Big businesses have more resource and more ability to manipulate the public than democratic governments
Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Honest question, why not just Debian and use a derivative instead? I took a 20 year sabbatical on Linux in the home. But with windows 11, I decided to go back. Stopped on debian, and chose Debian when I came back. I am super impressed with how it has matured and it seems to be built in a way that really does a fair job on looking out for you as a user, and as an administrator.
The main problem with Debian is outdated software. For servers the fixed release cycle is great, everything is properly tested and it should be rock solid without really needing to touch it. But for a regular desktop/workstation system I want more frequent software updates even if it comes at the cost of a little stability. (Of course there's Debian unstable, but I'd rather go with a distro where the rolling release…
I'm a Debian user. I see this a lot. Often in contrast with Ubuntu.
Yet Debian's cycle is roughly on par with Ubuntu's LTS - every ~2 years.[0]
Perhaps they mean there are interim releases in Ubuntu? It's hard to say for sure, as the phrase 'outdated software' can mean different things (more than 6 months old, more than 2 years old, in need of a security patch for > 1 week, etc).
> But for a regular desktop/workstation system I want more frequent software updates even if it comes at the cost of a little stability.
This sounds like you want Debian Testing (currently Trixie).
Much more frequent software updates, with an extremely small risk of less 'stability'.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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> Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. I usually try to avoid discussions of the OS, since it's such a terribly boring topic. However, this is quite an extraordinary claim that is made without any details. Perhaps you could elaborate. As someone that has used various Linux distros for nearly twenty years, I don't think I could construct a scenario in which someone…
It's 2023 and I still can't get a Dell laptop with Linux pre-installed to sleep properly without crashing without editing things in the terminal and mucking about in the bios. Even giving up on that and disabling sleep on lid close requires using the terminal. Sure the Gnome Tweaks tool has a setting for that but it's not installed by default and check the comments here, it doesn't actually work. https://askubuntu.co…
And sleep doesn't always stay slept. We've had machines wake up in bags so when later needed they have near flat batteries and are nice & toasty³.
So sleep/hibernate not working right is hardly a significant difference when comparing Linux to Windows. In fact one of the laptops I had trouble with did sleep and hibernate properly when Linux went on it for a while, so at least sometimes the difference is not in favour of Windows.
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[1] the couple of times that happened to me, the machine would still work via RDC and other such so an orderly restart could be arranged if I had another machine on the same network, but if I had no such machine available like when travelling a hard-reset had to be forced
[2] I'm told you can force it to be available again, but I assume the removal is an admission that is doesn't work properly so enabling it is risky
[3] being in a bag isn't great for cooling airflow!
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
The main problem with Debian is outdated software. For servers the fixed release cycle is great, everything is properly tested and it should be rock solid without really needing to touch it. But for a regular desktop/workstation system I want more frequent software updates even if it comes at the cost of a little stability. (Of course there's Debian unstable, but I'd rather go with a distro where the rolling release…
I find that Flatpaks[1] work really well for getting the latest version of GUI-only apps. For CLI tools and libraries I haven't found a great solution but I make do with an Arch Linux distrobox[2] container. [1]: https://flathub.org/setup/Debian [2]: https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/distrobox
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC. Smooth as butter, I love it. No app store, none of that candy crush stuff. Its what I expected Windows to be. Its a shame that I considered myself a power user but only learnt about it 2 years back.
I am currently building a gaming PC for my partner, and the OS is my biggest unsolved headache. Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC sounds perfect - can I ask you for a recommendation on where to get a license? I haven't had to deal with Microsoft licensing in over fifteen years, and unsurprisingly the topic doesn't seem to have gotten any easier since then.
You have to sail the high seas. Unless you are a business you cannot possibly get an LTSC license. Such a bummer that the quintessential Windows 10 experience cannot be bought by the average public.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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I remember when we first found out that IE could be uninstalled from Windows 98 and thus what eventually lead the EU to mandate Microsoft give Windows users a choice of 3rd party browsers. Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now.
>Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now. Reasonably, too. Governments seem reluctant to actually regulate anti-competitive behavior these days, especially from tech giants. I think it must be a kind of technological "too big to fail".
Microsoft was still big even back then, and yet they got regulated. Bell/AT&T was also a giant monopoly and it also got broken up. It seems that size wasn't the problem.
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Good husbands don't force their wives to wrestle with random daily problems like screen brightness not working on Linux because of their personal tech politics.
MacBook Air M2 should be the choice for any normal person who just needs to get normal work done. No politics, but clearly I've touched an insecurity here :/
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I'm a 'non-traditional' student (25) and my fellow students are normal undergraduate age (19). Half are having a hard time with learning some of the CAD software because they lack the experience with full featured Desktop OS's like Windows/Linux/Mac. It's surprising how fast generational change occurs
I've heard the same from university staff. The last few years many new students are having problems with the simplest stuff like uploading their course work into whatever educational platform the university is using because they have no grasp of the concept of a file.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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I'm a 'non-traditional' student (25) and my fellow students are normal undergraduate age (19). Half are having a hard time with learning some of the CAD software because they lack the experience with full featured Desktop OS's like Windows/Linux/Mac. It's surprising how fast generational change occurs
I've heard the same from university staff. The last few years many new students are having problems with the simplest stuff like uploading their course work into whatever educational platform the university is using because they have no grasp of the concept of a file.
It’s pretty unfair on those who have done the bare minimum amount of experience with computers that they have to sit through (and pay for!) being taught ‘this is what a file structure is and how it works’ for a not-trivial amount of time.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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I am currently building a gaming PC for my partner, and the OS is my biggest unsolved headache. Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC sounds perfect - can I ask you for a recommendation on where to get a license? I haven't had to deal with Microsoft licensing in over fifteen years, and unsurprisingly the topic doesn't seem to have gotten any easier since then.
> Can I ask you for a recommendation on where to get a license? You have to sail the high seas. Unless you are a business you cannot possibly get an LTSC license. Such a bummer that the quintessential Windows 10 experience cannot be bought by the average public.
Maybe I'll have to give Linux + Proton a shot, although I don't relish the additional complication regarding hardware selection...