Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

Post by justinclift » Sun, Sep 03, 2023, 8:57 PM UTC

dzhiurgis wrote: post #38

jacquesm wrote: post #7

At least you're in the car. I'm not, and I'm also at risk, and so is my family. Proximity to Tesla is fortunately higher for Tesla owners so they are probably at higher risk from FSD than the rest of us but you really should not give control of your car to anything that says 'beta' on the tin and that regulators haven't stepped in yet is a complete mystery to me. Given the amount of requirements a vehicle (and a driv…

Do you treat all traffic participants with same scrutiny? I’d rather have distracted driver on autopilot over distracted driver in a car with crude ADAS.

Post by mavu » Sun, Sep 03, 2023, 8:57 PM UTC

sidgarimella wrote: post #60

baz00 wrote: post #24

This will never work. They are still fucking around changing vehicle configurations, sensor configurations, computers, throwing more compute at it, everything after nearly a decade now. It's a hack job death march, reminiscent of half-assed software crap companies I've worked for, surrounded by hype, marketing and rabid fanboyism. I've never seen customers at this scale who are happy being experimented on like lab ra…

I ride Cruise daily– I think it's entirely a scoping problem and what they decide to finalize as "FSD". From my exp autonomous driving seems entirely plausible within large cities at slower speeds that don't instantly kill you or others, and outside that just as good a lane assist + cruise control as you can get– the rest is branding FSD and walking back a claim or two around it. It all seems very malleable.

Post by burkaman » Sun, Sep 03, 2023, 8:58 PM UTC

baz00 wrote: post #78

burkaman wrote: post #70

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There are cheapish EVs now, you can get a Bolt or Leaf or Mini for non-luxury prices. Not as cheap as the cheapest ICE vehicles, but getting there.

Most car sales are second hand and that's a different proposition. However on new cars, £28k for a car with 149 miles range or £20k for a car with 400 mile range that the difference in price buys you 77,000 miles of fuel?

Post by sebzim4500 » Sun, Sep 03, 2023, 9:02 PM UTC

6D794163636F756 wrote: post #84

sebzim4500 wrote: post #39

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For the most part I agree with you, but >I don’t care for arguments about safety statistics is insane. If it's safer it's safer, and the only way to know is statistics. The fact that (seemingly) no government department is collecting and publishing safety statistics on every self driving car manufacturer defies belief.

They specifically said test track. Once it's proven then put it on the roads. But in it's current state it should be severely restricted. They may need training data but then they can pay for it or pay to construct suitable tests

Post by nickthegreek » Sun, Sep 03, 2023, 9:06 PM UTC

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idopmstuff wrote: post #15

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For all the criticisms of Elon Musk you could level (and there are many), this is a weird choice in that it's demonstrably wrong - he livestreamed himself driving using the newest version of FSD Beta very recently.

Did he? And we know that wasn't heavily prepared? Also, Musk is very capabale of doing stupid things. Especially when it comes to social media likes. I mean he spent 44 billion for that same reason...