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Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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It still blows my mind that so many people are okay with beta testing software that controls a several-tonne metal box on wheels moving at 100km/h+ on shared roadways.

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Even the stupidest meat sack is orders of magnitudes better at driving when the constraint system they are working within is violated.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

#12

Elon Musk follows Longtermism. His position is that few deaths here and there today don't matter if it brings about full self driving cars.

He has a point. The real question is whether it is his decision to make that this trade-off is worth it, not whether he has a cogent argument.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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Elon Musk follows Longtermism. His position is that few deaths here and there today don't matter if it brings about full self driving cars.

It is funny, isn't it, that every single person that thought that some lives had to be sacrificed now for the greater good or something later somehow managed to exclude their own life, and that of their loved ones, out of that equation.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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Elon Musk follows Longtermism. His position is that few deaths here and there today don't matter if it brings about full self driving cars.

It is funny, isn't it, that every single person that thought that some lives had to be sacrificed now for the greater good or something later somehow managed to exclude their own life, and that of their loved ones, out of that equation.

For all the criticisms of Elon Musk you could level (and there are many), this is a weird choice in that it's demonstrably wrong - he livestreamed himself driving using the newest version of FSD Beta very recently.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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At least you're in the car. I'm not, and I'm also at risk, and so is my family. Proximity to Tesla is fortunately higher for Tesla owners so they are probably at higher risk from FSD than the rest of us but you really should not give control of your car to anything that says 'beta' on the tin and that regulators haven't stepped in yet is a complete mystery to me. Given the amount of requirements a vehicle (and a driv…

I’m all for the personal responsibility thing. In Canada if you do 50km/h over the limit they seize your car roadside, fine you $10k, suspend your license, and likely charge you criminally for dangerous driving. We also have private race tracks where you can take your Civic and put yourself into a wall at 170km/h if you so choose.

I don’t care for arguments about safety statistics or the ends justifying the means. My kids are on these streets. It’s not your autonomy test track.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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So? At least they have a driving license. That's not something we can say about this pile of crap. It cost me 2 years of my life, a small fortune at the time and a lot of hassle from the authorities before being allowed to pass so I could join in on this thing called 'traffic' with a vehicle. And I thought that was just fine. Now we get this stuff that is absolutely unverified and that is known to have issues release…

Why did it take you two years and a small fortune? It took me some reasonable number of hours over ~6 months (at the time in CA you could get your learner's permit at 15.5 and license at 16) and a couple hundred bucks for a driving instructor.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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It still blows my mind that so many people are okay with beta testing software that controls a several-tonne metal box on wheels moving at 100km/h+ on shared roadways.

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Under more than ideal conditions... FSD is maybe at par.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is funny, isn't it, that every single person that thought that some lives had to be sacrificed now for the greater good or something later somehow managed to exclude their own life, and that of their loved ones, out of that equation.

For all the criticisms of Elon Musk you could level (and there are many), this is a weird choice in that it's demonstrably wrong - he livestreamed himself driving using the newest version of FSD Beta very recently.

Did he? And we know that wasn't heavily prepared?

Also, Musk is very capabale of doing stupid things. Especially when it comes to social media likes. I mean he spent 44 billion for that same reason...

Re: Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is funny, isn't it, that every single person that thought that some lives had to be sacrificed now for the greater good or something later somehow managed to exclude their own life, and that of their loved ones, out of that equation.

For all the criticisms of Elon Musk you could level (and there are many), this is a weird choice in that it's demonstrably wrong - he livestreamed himself driving using the newest version of FSD Beta very recently.

So he's used it.. once? Or are you saying he uses it exclusively to get around?
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