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I do not understand how a large number of software vendors have managed to turn "beta testing" into a desirable way to spend time. People even compete to be allowed to perform free beta testing. Great from a business perspective, saves a lot of money on QA. I prefer to use the software once it has been fully released and has been out for a while for the vendor to iron out any major issues. To freely chose to beta tes…
At least you're in the car. I'm not, and I'm also at risk, and so is my family. Proximity to Tesla is fortunately higher for Tesla owners so they are probably at higher risk from FSD than the rest of us but you really should not give control of your car to anything that says 'beta' on the tin and that regulators haven't stepped in yet is a complete mystery to me. Given the amount of requirements a vehicle (and a driv…
Do you treat all traffic participants with same scrutiny? I’d rather have distracted driver on autopilot over distracted driver in a car with crude ADAS.
This will never work. They are still fucking around changing vehicle configurations, sensor configurations, computers, throwing more compute at it, everything after nearly a decade now. It's a hack job death march, reminiscent of half-assed software crap companies I've worked for, surrounded by hype, marketing and rabid fanboyism. I've never seen customers at this scale who are happy being experimented on like lab ra…
I ride Cruise daily– I think it's entirely a scoping problem and what they decide to finalize as "FSD". From my exp autonomous driving seems entirely plausible within large cities at slower speeds that don't instantly kill you or others, and outside that just as good a lane assist + cruise control as you can get– the rest is branding FSD and walking back a claim or two around it. It all seems very malleable.
It still blows my mind that so many people are okay with beta testing software that controls a several-tonne metal box on wheels moving at 100km/h+ on shared roadways.
FTFY. We're socially conditioned to ignore these risks, but it's still objectively insane that I can easily kill myself, my entire family, and another group of innocent bystanders by rotating a steering wheel a few inches in the wrong direction.
(I still don't and would never use Tesla FSD, though.)
This will never work. They are still fucking around changing vehicle configurations, sensor configurations, computers, throwing more compute at it, everything after nearly a decade now. It's a hack job death march, reminiscent of half-assed software crap companies I've worked for, surrounded by hype, marketing and rabid fanboyism. I've never seen customers at this scale who are happy being experimented on like lab ra…
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I’m all for the personal responsibility thing. In Canada if you do 50km/h over the limit they seize your car roadside, fine you $10k, suspend your license, and likely charge you criminally for dangerous driving. We also have private race tracks where you can take your Civic and put yourself into a wall at 170km/h if you so choose. I don’t care for arguments about safety statistics or the ends justifying the means. My…
For the most part I agree with you, but >I don’t care for arguments about safety statistics is insane. If it's safer it's safer, and the only way to know is statistics. The fact that (seemingly) no government department is collecting and publishing safety statistics on every self driving car manufacturer defies belief.
I don't understand how its possibly legal for tesla, or anyone for that matter, to be able to push out beta life critical software to the general public. Say for example a utility company pushed out an update that flipped the power contactor between you and the grid too many times that it caught fire, the company would be taken to court. I simply just don't understand how Tesla can get away with it.
This will never work. They are still fucking around changing vehicle configurations, sensor configurations, computers, throwing more compute at it, everything after nearly a decade now. It's a hack job death march, reminiscent of half-assed software crap companies I've worked for, surrounded by hype, marketing and rabid fanboyism. I've never seen customers at this scale who are happy being experimented on like lab ra…
That is my new favourite expression and describes 85% of startups.
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I’m all for the personal responsibility thing. In Canada if you do 50km/h over the limit they seize your car roadside, fine you $10k, suspend your license, and likely charge you criminally for dangerous driving. We also have private race tracks where you can take your Civic and put yourself into a wall at 170km/h if you so choose. I don’t care for arguments about safety statistics or the ends justifying the means. My…
For the most part I agree with you, but >I don’t care for arguments about safety statistics is insane. If it's safer it's safer, and the only way to know is statistics. The fact that (seemingly) no government department is collecting and publishing safety statistics on every self driving car manufacturer defies belief.
But I think what you’re talking about is if autonomy makes my kids safer in the immediate, and not as an end result of public testing. Yes, I support that. I don’t think this is that yet. The word beta is right there.
This will never work. They are still fucking around changing vehicle configurations, sensor configurations, computers, throwing more compute at it, everything after nearly a decade now. It's a hack job death march, reminiscent of half-assed software crap companies I've worked for, surrounded by hype, marketing and rabid fanboyism. I've never seen customers at this scale who are happy being experimented on like lab ra…