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Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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so is Opera (on linux).. some 3-4px artificial frame-of-theirs that does not come or be controllable by window-manager. Why? To look rounded on rounded phones? All these "pink-fluffy-unicorn" looks-feels of all recent techie stuff start to make me sick..

I'm happy with the rounded corners in Opera (although I rarely see them since I leave the window maximized most of the time); in face, I would love to see KDE Plasma adopt the same strategy of rounding all four corners of windows. It looks nice, and Windows 11 has reinforced that it can work fine without getting in the user's way (although Windows 11 rounded them too much, and now it's hard to resize windows easily).

> I would love to see KDE Plasma adopt the same strategy of rounding all four corners of windows.

Only if it can be disabled. I would hate this quite a lot.

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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post #2

That’s not the rule I want browsers to follow. I want the browser to act as my agent, following my preferences in all things. I set a minimum font size, I control which fonts pages may use, I control when they may run scripts, when they may have videos or sound, what form controls (buttons, text inputs, etc) look like, when they may load content from third–party domains, etc, etc. Web application developers should no…

That sounds idealistic, but not practical. Users want application developers to design applications for them, not use the browser settings to design & customize the application for themselves, because most users aren't designers, and even if they are, they don't want to spend the time.

> Users want application developers to design applications for them, not use the browser settings to design & customize the application

True, but web devs tend to do such a poor job of it that being able to use browser settings to try to mitigate that is very important.

But the underlying point isn't even that. The underlying point is that the browser is a user agent and as such, should have the last word in terms of how the content is being presented. If a browser is making a poor choice, then the beef is properly between the end user and the browser maker more than between the web dev and the browser maker.

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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It also provides this unwanted bullshit like coupon notifications and buy now pay later scams. I know it can be turned off but it should never have been included. Really, I don't know why people still use it. If you want chrome, just use the real thing. The only reason I use it is Microsoft lobbied my work to make it the "official" browser. Not sure why they're so proud of their copy of Google's stuff with a thin lay…

>The only reason I use it is Microsoft lobbied my work to make it the "official" browser

The reason is that Edge works with Azure Entra SSO out of the box, syncs settings and everything with a Microsoft account, integrates with smartscreen and defender, works the best with all office 365 apps, Bing now searches Office 365 etc.

ALSO the settings control is offers over GPO and Intune.

No "lobbying" needed, sadly.

(I use a wombo combo of browsers at work and at home...)

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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post #4

A screenshot and explanation of how to turn this off can be found here [0]. > Edge is breaking this cardinal rule: Browser chrome belongs to the browser, but the content area belongs to the application alone. It's funny, for me this is not at all what the web is about. I see CSS styles as at best a suggestion for how the website would like to be rendered, but the browser is fundamentally a user agent that can render…

That option doesn't exist for me. Instead of "Use rounded corners for browser tabs", my Edge settings simply says "Try the new look and feel of Microsoft Edge". Lol. I know it's the same setting, because if I click the thumbs down button next to the question "Are you satisfied with the new look and feel of Micrsoft Edge?", one of the reasons that pops up when you thumbs down is regarding the rounded versus square corners.

As another note, I've noticed that YouTube has suddenly started rounding the corners on its videos.

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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A screenshot and explanation of how to turn this off can be found here [0]. > Edge is breaking this cardinal rule: Browser chrome belongs to the browser, but the content area belongs to the application alone. It's funny, for me this is not at all what the web is about. I see CSS styles as at best a suggestion for how the website would like to be rendered, but the browser is fundamentally a user agent that can render…

That option doesn't exist for me. Instead of "Use rounded corners for browser tabs", my Edge settings simply says "Try the new look and feel of Microsoft Edge". Lol. I know it's the same setting, because if I click the thumbs down button next to the question "Are you satisfied with the new look and feel of Micrsoft Edge?", one of the reasons that pops up when you thumbs down is regarding the rounded versus square cor…

> I've noticed that YouTube has suddenly started rounding the corners on its videos.

It started a couple months ago with thumbnails. Apparently the infection is spreading. :-/

I immediately turn this "feature" off. You can fix it via uBlock Origin:

  ! Disable rounded corners on Youtube videos
  youtube.com##ytd-player:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  ! Search/sidebar previews
  youtube.com##.ytd-thumbnail:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  ! End-of-playback video grid
  youtube.com##.ytp-videowall-still-image:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  ! Video links within videos
  www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-large-round:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  ! Seek bar live preview
  youtube.com##.ytp-rounded-tooltip.ytp-preview:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  youtube.com##.ytp-rounded-tooltip.ytp-preview .ytp-tooltip-bg:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  
  ! Bonus: Disable rounded corners on Reddit
  ! Old version, previews
  reddit.com##.thumbnail:style(border-radius: 0 !important)
  ! New version, media
  reddit.com##.xs\:rounded-\[16px\]:style(border-radius:0 !important)
  ! New version, previews
  reddit.com##.rounded-\[8px\]:style(border-radius:0 !important)
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