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Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France? One disadvantage of globalization is that you get to see the dumb ideas of all politicians. Somehow, the good ideas don't cumulate the same way...

> How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France?

I don't have an answer to your question, but China seems to be successful with the internet censorship thing.

Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know France Then don't try to put discredit to the saying of an insider. GP is 100% right. I've been back after about ~5 years living abroad and the country is in an astonishing decline on every plan (educational, moral, economical, political, diplomatic, security, judicial, medical, etc. the list goes one). And most of it is stemming from the policies enforced in the last decades.

> Then don't try to put discredit to the saying of an insider. The GP in question is a generic ramble about distaste for current government. You can apply that for each and every country - there's not one where citizens are happy with their leaders. And if this flies for 'insider knowledge' in France you really are f**d and, its not because of the government.

> The GP in question is a generic ramble about distaste for current government.

For the last 4 presidents and their ~15 governments (20 years), both "left" and "right".

But I agree said rambling remains quite generic nonetheless.

Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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post #42

How can France force them? Just don’t do it.

well otherwise France can ask its ISP's to just block Mozilla in France if it doesn't comply

And also block 3rd party (linux distro) repositories that also ship Firefox?

Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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The French government's approach to modern tech is similar to the UK and Germany in some ways. They seem to be advised by a bunch of decrepit dudes who stopped learning about computers before the OSI model was created.

The old Europe feels cornered by this tech and acts aggressively to defend itself.

I'm from "the old Europe" and not French. Your point?

Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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You need to give some serious references for that.

hi, our nuclear park is jeopardized, our energy cost is above the roof, several scandals ; look up the macron leaks it's has widely made the news both in france and internationally.

Or Chirac and Balladur's 1995 presidential campaign accounts.

The only recently released the Constitutional Council’s archives, 25 years later, and it’s been quite enlightening.

Our Supreme Court "equivalent" basically approved, enabled, contributed to and hid away blatant fraud, then lied about it for years, all under the guise of avoiding "political consequences".

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/politique/affaire/affaire-karach...

Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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There're a bunch of corrupted inviduals with no counter power to keep them in check. No decisions are made for the benefit of the French people since a long time, every law passed is either to augment their power, rise taxes (already world top 1 or 2 depending on the year) or to the benefit their friends owning private companies. Of course technology freedom will suffer from this as well.

> ... or to the benefit their friends owning private companies. Yup this one in France is really a big problem. The public sector spendings officially represents something like 58.1% of the french GDP (official "Insee" numbers from 2023, for 2022)... France is not far from a planned economy and, unsurprisingly, it's a particularly harsh environment for real small private SMEs (i.e. those without friends at the state)…

>Marseille

The US has Detroid, LA gangs, SF with the streets filled with homeless people...

Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

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There're a bunch of corrupted inviduals with no counter power to keep them in check. No decisions are made for the benefit of the French people since a long time, every law passed is either to augment their power, rise taxes (already world top 1 or 2 depending on the year) or to the benefit their friends owning private companies. Of course technology freedom will suffer from this as well.

> ... or to the benefit their friends owning private companies. Yup this one in France is really a big problem. The public sector spendings officially represents something like 58.1% of the french GDP (official "Insee" numbers from 2023, for 2022)... France is not far from a planned economy and, unsurprisingly, it's a particularly harsh environment for real small private SMEs (i.e. those without friends at the state)…

France is really far from a planned economy.

Marseille's worst neighborhoods are really chill compared to the bad parts of any American city.

The streets are pretty safe.

Your comment is kinda ridiculous, stop watching TV.

Yeah there are lot of taxes, but those taxes come in handy when you can get 2 years of unemployment benefits when starting a company. Or when you know, get a cancer that would cost a few millions to treat.

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