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I have less than zero idea what's going on here? I understand the broad topic but exactly what is France demanding? A list of blocked URLs browsers should refuse to render? A list of IPs that are forbidden (doesn't make sense since that can be handled at ISP or OS level). Blocked words/phrases (trivially bypassed by people who have the list and can iterate on text until allowed)? Blocked links? Input fields that prev…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's the context: the fr gov's been acting against national interest for more than 20 years in a row. The people know it. The gov knows the people know. The gov wants to pretend it's not doing anything wrong. It could keep pretending credibly, if only people would keep their trap shut on the web. So now gov wants to control what people can see and say on the web.
This is extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence! This looks more like a whack-a-mole "for the children" misguided initiative, not a great firewall of China... Do you have more context?
If Mozilla doesn't have employees or a nexus in France, they could just ignore this law.
I have less than zero idea what's going on here? I understand the broad topic but exactly what is France demanding? A list of blocked URLs browsers should refuse to render? A list of IPs that are forbidden (doesn't make sense since that can be handled at ISP or OS level). Blocked words/phrases (trivially bypassed by people who have the list and can iterate on text until allowed)? Blocked links? Input fields that prev…
It would be nice if Mozilla would add more context around it. That said, it’s freaking exhausting how these dumb actions keep being taken by governments all over the world. It seems like every month there’s some new crap going on
Link to the proposed bill (French) https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/dossierlegislatif/JORFDOLE000...
The Minister for the Economy, Finance and Industrial and Digital Sovereignty and the Minister attached to the Minister for the Economy, Finance and Industrial and Digital Sovereignty, responsible for the Digital Transition and Telecommunications, have presented the bill to secure and regulate the digital space (SREN) in order to restore the confidence necessary for the success of the digital transition. With this bill, France is adopting a range of bold and unprecedented practical measures aimed at strengthening public order in the digital environment. The result of interministerial work led by Jean-Noël Barrot, the bill contains some twenty proposals aimed in particular at : - implement an anti-scam cybersecurity filter to protect the French against attempts to access their personal or bank details fraudulently for malicious purposes, which have increased in number in recent years; - strengthen penalties for people convicted of cyberbullying, a phenomenon that is spreading on social networks; - strengthen the system for enforcing online age limits for access to pornographic sites, to better protect our children; - penalise sites that fail to remove online child pornography content; - restore commercial fairness to the cloud market, which is currently concentrated in the hands of a handful of players.
This seems to be false as the precedent already exists.
sources: Étude d'impact (PDF linked in https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/dossierlegislatif/JORFDOLE000...) says
>Par ses modalités, ce dispositif est à rapprocher du dispositif de filtrage prévu au 1° de l’article L. 521-3-1 du code de la consommation, permettant aux agents de la DGCCRF d’ordonner, selon des conditions et modalités particulières, aux opérateurs de plateformes en ligne, aux fournisseurs d’accès à internet ainsi qu’aux exploitants de navigateurs internet d’afficher un message avertissant les consommateurs du risque de préjudice encouru s’ils accèdent au contenu manifestement illicite, et au b du 2° du même article, qui leur permet d’ordonner à ces mêmes opérateurs et aux hébergeurs de prendre toute mesure utile destinée à limiter l’accès à ces contenus.
Article L. 521-3-1 du code de la consommation: https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...