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What about when you accidentally go 5mph over the speed limit?
5 mph is 8 km/h. That’s quite a lot. Pay attention to your speed when you are driving. Most, if not all, modern cars have cruise control where you can set your speed if you are having trouble following the speed limits.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh grow up. Wearing a seatbelt isn't oppression you muppet.
First, as a self-identifying muppet, I resent your using the term as a pejorative. Second, and no longer tongue in cheek: You are definitely in violation of the HN guidelines. You can't comment like that here.
Will obey the HN guidelines.
You freedom fighters are funny little creatures.
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#113“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C. S.…
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is one of those quotes that sounds deep but is obviously untrue if you think about it for a bit. I suspect he would prefer “moral busybodies” to, I dunno, 1930’s Germany.
If I recall the essay, Lewis definitely believes that this applies to things like Nazi Germany or the USSR. The true believers in Arianism and communism thought they were doing good - they were creating this golden future for their people and/or the workers! So destroying everyone who was in the way was morally right (in their view). It's fair to say that Lewis would prefer moral busybodies in Cornwall with speed cam…
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> texting while driving is insane I'm inclined to agree, but I would also love to see more detailed analysis. It is easy for everyone to jump on this particular bandwagon (I have found very few people willing to say that texting while driving is no big deal), but at the same time I see a lot of texting while driving happening every day. And while we do know it contributes to accidents, driving remains a relatively sa…
> we use such justifications for massively increasing surveillance Is it massively increasing surveillance? UK is full of speed cameras[1] and automatic number plate recognition cameras[2]. "Vehicle movements on UK roads are recorded by a network of 11,000 cameras that read around 60 million number plates daily." 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_speed_limit_enforcement_i... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autom…
Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall
#116“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C. S.…
Oh grow up. Wearing a seatbelt isn't oppression you muppet.
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#117Hopefully this catches up. It's scary how normalized traffic violence and risking other's life is in our society. If there is one place where AI based automatic enforcement could instantly make life better it's traffic laws enforcement. I am looking for the day I can drive at a speed limit and not be a target of aggressive maniacs tailgating and dangerously overataking me or one I can go for a bike ride and not be ga…
What about when you accidentally go 5mph over the speed limit?
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#118“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C. S.…
> It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. Oh what a slippery slope indeed. /s Instead of grandstanding, how do you suggest the law get enforced otherwise than partially automating checking if drivers are not driving blind for dozens of meters at a time?
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#119I do understand the privacy arguments, but there are thousands of people are being killed by drivers every day (many of whom aren't even in cars, they're walking or biking). Enforcing traffic laws is one of the only tools for fixing this that can be implemented quickly (as opposed to better urban design and public transit, which are better solutions in many other ways). I feel like their should be room to advocate fo…
It's puzzling to me why police need to be involved at all, save for possibly some sort of statutory restriction that ought to be removed. What is it about police's training that makes them uniquely qualified to process these images to determine that there's cause for a citation to be issued? This and other automated street safety tools are very valuable for public safety. But there's no reason these programs couldn't…
The Police are already tooled up to issue traffic citations. Tooling up the BTP to do the same task would just mean more money, and end you at the same result, no?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I recall the essay, Lewis definitely believes that this applies to things like Nazi Germany or the USSR. The true believers in Arianism and communism thought they were doing good - they were creating this golden future for their people and/or the workers! So destroying everyone who was in the way was morally right (in their view). It's fair to say that Lewis would prefer moral busybodies in Cornwall with speed cam…
He specifically says “those who torment us for our own good”. The Nazis believed what they were doing was good for their people, but I don’t think they had any illusions that “destroying everyone…in the way” was good for the people being destroyed.