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Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

stilwelldotdev wrote: post #6
c0t300 wrote: post #2

you could maybe show some testing? if that's true, then it should be measurable

Test yourself, they link to their site from their profile and it's definitely delayed. https://twitter.com/nytimes

Just tried this - loaded almost instantly. But that's only the link in the profile. Not shared links in tweets.

Leaning towards there's something else going on deep in the DNS/ad servers/cdn/who knows. Not the first I've seen/heard of resolving delays with t.co... maybe it's even just something with legacy non-SSL links being redirected etc

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by justin101 »

There are a number of reasons this could be that are not necessarily nefarious. It's odd to jump straight to "something evil is going on"

Tell me this, does Twitter have some kind of "play nice" code that slows down inbound clicks through to a site so it doesn't DDOS other sites? I can easily imagine a scenario where anti DDOS caode would allow small sites to pass through quickly, yet sites under heavy "click through" load are being slightly throttled.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by jonny_eh »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #102

I'd like to invoke Hanlon's razor here to at least cut down on the potential for over-the-top reactions that can be somewhat embarassing in retrospect: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Or both

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by altairprime »

vasco wrote: post #109
altairprime wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it if the information is freely available, to anyone asking, for a single domain they are trying to post at that time? It’s not secret, because they’ll be provided an answer if they email the mod team. It’s not free as in open source, because it isn’t available for anyone to download and study in full. So, since it’s not secret, is it public, or private? Since it’s not published in full but any query of LIMIT…

> Suggestions welcome "This domain is not allowed on HN" as an error message upon submission.

That’s not going to work, because now that’s an API for spammers to bulk process against a domain list. The only available API must be human communication to the mod team, or the spammers will overcome it with automation.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by mutant_glofish »

pgeorgi wrote: post #104
mutant_glofish wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That's what "random 10 out of 67k sites" gives you. Your set was cherry-picked, dang's wasn't. That said, dailykos.com seems to be banned. Happy now?

> Your set was cherry-picked

Not exactly cherry-picked, these were from things I submitted myself and noticed that were shadow flagged.

> That said, dailykos.com seems to be banned. Happy now?

No, I'd be happy when archive.is, Federalist and the rest of the non-spammy ones are unbanned. (Also, even if "balanced" censorship was the desired goal, having a single unreliable left-wing source banned vs a ton of right-wing ones doesn't really achieve that.)

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by minimaxir »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #102

I'd like to invoke Hanlon's razor here to at least cut down on the potential for over-the-top reactions that can be somewhat embarassing in retrospect: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

This is a case where Occam's Razor trumps Hanlon's Razor.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by Bootvis »

justin101 wrote: post #112

There are a number of reasons this could be that are not necessarily nefarious. It's odd to jump straight to "something evil is going on" Tell me this, does Twitter have some kind of "play nice" code that slows down inbound clicks through to a site so it doesn't DDOS other sites? I can easily imagine a scenario where anti DDOS caode would allow small sites to pass through quickly, yet sites under heavy "click through…

This wouldn’t reduce total requests made so it would be a weird anti-DDOS measure.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #102

I'd like to invoke Hanlon's razor here to at least cut down on the potential for over-the-top reactions that can be somewhat embarassing in retrospect: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Absolutely not applicable to corporations. Bad faith actions are rampant, and I am unwilling to give the benefit of the doubt to billion dollar companies.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by altairprime »

rhaksw wrote: post #106
altairprime wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it if the information is freely available, to anyone asking, for a single domain they are trying to post at that time? It’s not secret, because they’ll be provided an answer if they email the mod team. It’s not free as in open source, because it isn’t available for anyone to download and study in full. So, since it’s not secret, is it public, or private? Since it’s not published in full but any query of LIMIT…

Content moderation systems often hide mod actions from the content author [1]. That's a secret. The opposite would be to show the author of the content some indicator that it's been removed, and I would call that transparent or disclosed moderation. Interestingly, your comment first appeared to me as "* * *" with no author [2]. I wonder if that is some kind of ban. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6BIkKBZpg [2]…

There’s a protection system in place that can result in that; I don’t have the details at hand (since I’m not associated with HN/YC) but I remember seeing it once before on a highly contentious post, and an email to the mods helped explain/correct whatever was up.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Post by vasco »

xNeil wrote: post #86
chasing wrote: post #58

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I came to HN because it seemed to be a place of free dialogue. > It's certainly under no obligation to promote right-wing propaganda and hate. It's certainly under no obligation to promote any propaganda or hate. That's what makes the site great. The HN crowd is not your average layman - it's largely well read and educated people. Why not let them decide what is propaganda and what's not (as opposed to some arbitrary…

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