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Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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1201(a)(2) prohibits selling tools that are either... - Only capable of breaking copy protection - Have minimal commercial utility other than to break copy protection - Are advertised as being able to break copy protection If you sold someone an aux cord with the marketing slogan "Copy music off Spotify and stop paying for your subscription", that'd violate 1201(a)(2) because of that third prong[0]. There's also plen…

Surprising then that Apple launched iTunes with the ‘rip. mix. burn.’ slogan in 2000 right after the DMCA was introduced.

There was no copy protection being bypassed in that era, and ripping CDs was just a normal thing that people did to listen to music on their computer without having to worry about scratch discs etc.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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I want a machine learning enhanced analog loop. I want to be able to point a device at a screen and have the machine learning clean everything up and restore high quality sound and video. Training data would be easy. Take a bunch of videos, play them on a screen, record the screen. You now have the input and the output, x and y. It's just supervised learning from there. I know there are better options currently, but…

This only works as long as the silicon used for deep learning cooperates.

They can just tattoo all celebrities with EURion constellations on their faces. Don't worry, it's only a short-term measure until the replacement models are fully trained.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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It feels very human that we have a nearly post-scarcity delivery mechanism that we still optimize for rent seeking.

Creating the content is much harder than delivering it. The rent seeking is to encourage creation.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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It feels very human that we have a nearly post-scarcity delivery mechanism that we still optimize for rent seeking.

Yes. By design. Copyright law, and basically all other IP law, is explicitly and purposefully about allowing rent seeking. The idea is that in a completely unregulated market, it is impossible to make money from ideas after they are made public. Since making ideas public is good for society, we want to encourage people to continue to do this. Paying people is how we encourage people to do things. So we allow rent seeking, with limits, as a way to pay people even though they make their ideas public. The issue is with how far this rent seeking goes, and where the balance between social good and private good falls. I'm very firmly in the camp that most IP law has, in the modern day, gone too far. But I do think that conceptually it is beneficial to have and maintain some level of rent seeking.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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My understanding is that people purely downloading are very rarely if never prosecuted or even part of civil suite. So it is not very big issue and likely is "fair use".

Entirely different question is does offering a tool for this process constitute as fair use as well. Specially if there is DRM involved. Or does tool need to work in specific way to qualify? For example you could record video on your own machine while watching it, but could not directly download a copy?

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

#47

It feels very human that we have a nearly post-scarcity delivery mechanism that we still optimize for rent seeking.

Yes. By design. Copyright law, and basically all other IP law, is explicitly and purposefully about allowing rent seeking. The idea is that in a completely unregulated market, it is impossible to make money from ideas after they are made public. Since making ideas public is good for society, we want to encourage people to continue to do this. Paying people is how we encourage people to do things. So we allow rent see…

I think IP laws make lot of sense and so does allowing protection of such. It is only effective way to stop corporations from exploiting creators they do not have direct relationship with.

Not that the current term we have isn't extremely too long. And whole concept of lifetime being involved isn't just weird.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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I didn't think recording a song from the radio was "fair use" either.

Learn the new "meta". Just collect the songs and then run your own commentary on top of them. Thus instantly turning them something legal. Even if you just post them to place no one listen to.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Mastodon without Javascript enabled: https://mastodon.social/@HalvarFlake/110883667162838296/embe...

... also without comments. I appreciate the idea, but without the discussion its basically Twitter since they also hide replies with anonymous requests.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprising then that Apple launched iTunes with the ‘rip. mix. burn.’ slogan in 2000 right after the DMCA was introduced.

There was no copy protection being bypassed in that era, and ripping CDs was just a normal thing that people did to listen to music on their computer without having to worry about scratch discs etc.

Or share them on soulseek libraries
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