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Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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actionfromafar wrote: post #15
kmeisthax wrote: post #8

The problem is that whether or not downloading a YouTube video can be fair use, the RIAA is alleging that youtube-dl is a copy protection circumvention tool. 17 USC 1201(a)(2) does not care about your fair use, it only cares about keeping copying tools off the market. To bring this back into the home recording of radio, it'd be as if Congress decided to ban the sale of tape decks that could record radio transmissions…

I wonder if a cassette deck connected to the computer is also a copy protection circumvention tool. I suppose it is?

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Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by veave »

indymike wrote: post #30
kmeisthax wrote: post #8

The problem is that whether or not downloading a YouTube video can be fair use, the RIAA is alleging that youtube-dl is a copy protection circumvention tool. 17 USC 1201(a)(2) does not care about your fair use, it only cares about keeping copying tools off the market. To bring this back into the home recording of radio, it'd be as if Congress decided to ban the sale of tape decks that could record radio transmissions…

> youtube-dl is a copy protection circumvention tool Wait until they find out that Microsoft has been providing tools like COPY and XCOPY with their OS for decades...

COPY and XCOPY are okay as long as they aren't written to intentionally bypass DRM (they aren't)

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by jamilton »

GhostWhisperer wrote: post #20
hiccuphippo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll gladly pay a % of what I pay to download yt-dl

brew install yt-dlp alias vget=yt-dlp alias aget='vget --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 4' # https://opencollective.com/homebrew # https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/Collaborators.md#collaborators

They're just making a joke that they don't pay for yt-dlp, so of course they'd be willing to pay a tax of some percent of 0.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by GhostWhisperer »

jamilton wrote: post #34
GhostWhisperer wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

brew install yt-dlp alias vget=yt-dlp alias aget='vget --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 4' # https://opencollective.com/homebrew # https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/Collaborators.md#collaborators

They're just making a joke that they don't pay for yt-dlp, so of course they'd be willing to pay a tax of some percent of 0.

thank you

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by amelius »

Buttons840 wrote: post #13

I want a machine learning enhanced analog loop. I want to be able to point a device at a screen and have the machine learning clean everything up and restore high quality sound and video. Training data would be easy. Take a bunch of videos, play them on a screen, record the screen. You now have the input and the output, x and y. It's just supervised learning from there. I know there are better options currently, but…

This only works as long as the silicon used for deep learning cooperates.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by userbinator »

doublepg23 wrote: post #36

It feels very human that we have a nearly post-scarcity delivery mechanism that we still optimize for rent seeking.

Corporate greed knows no bounds. If they could erase your brain of "their" IP, they advocates would.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by jrm4 »

doublepg23 wrote: post #36

It feels very human that we have a nearly post-scarcity delivery mechanism that we still optimize for rent seeking.

I love the precision with which you've said this - but I also I really need to feel like we need a better "general public" way to say it? I haven't figured this out yet.

Re: Downloading a video should be “fair use” as recording a song from the radio

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Post by jameshart »

kmeisthax wrote: post #28
actionfromafar wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if a cassette deck connected to the computer is also a copy protection circumvention tool. I suppose it is?

1201(a)(2) prohibits selling tools that are either... - Only capable of breaking copy protection - Have minimal commercial utility other than to break copy protection - Are advertised as being able to break copy protection If you sold someone an aux cord with the marketing slogan "Copy music off Spotify and stop paying for your subscription", that'd violate 1201(a)(2) because of that third prong[0]. There's also plen…

Surprising then that Apple launched iTunes with the ‘rip. mix. burn.’ slogan in 2000 right after the DMCA was introduced.
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