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Would that not mean that record label can ignore him when asking to be paid for songwriting royalties? Seems like a recipe to make yourself penniless.
[0] https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-copyright
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Are you saying people who make "true art" should not be doing it for reward, or should not be as interested in money as non-artists? This is enormously reductive and is quite a modern idea. Most artists in history have made art for gain. It is a bold strategy to suggest that Nick Cave is confused by ideas of income and art. I don't care who you are: on this topic, Cave is almost 100% certainly better informed than yo…
Maybe Nick Cave should stop using computers too since they simplify the "true creation process". Or just disregard tools altogether and return to his destiny as denoted by nominative determinism.
From the article: > ChatGPT is fast-tracking the commodification of the human spirit by mechanising the imagination. It renders our participation in the act of creation as valueless and unnecessary. That ‘songwriter ‘you were talking to, Leon, who is using ChatGPT to write ‘his’ lyrics because it is ‘faster and easier ,’is participating in this erosion of the world’s soul and the spirit of humanity itself and, to put…
It can give a good skeleton for how an idea can end up looking - which is often exactly what I need to implement the vision I have.
Perhaps this is still skipping a vital part of the ideation process, but it doesn’t seem to me like it’s completely devoid of creative struggle.
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Not an artist, but many people refer to the creative part of making software as an “art”, so here’s a take. ChatGPT allows for rapid iteration of ideas. I have an idea, I get ChatGPT to flesh it out, I iterate. The value ChatGPT is providing is not to be the source of creativity, it’s in speeding up the process from idea to concrete implementation. It’s a tool. In software development and engineering more generally,…
Coding is not art, it is a learned and trained skill. Even though, I believe that the use of ChatGPT or any other AI assistant will eventually lead to the creation of inexperienced and unskilled generations of developers. Using AI to generate "art" will just kill human creativity. Not only will it do that, it will create a new normal, where this AI art will be viewed as standard. Just as we currently have an over-mon…
From the article: > ChatGPT is fast-tracking the commodification of the human spirit by mechanising the imagination. It renders our participation in the act of creation as valueless and unnecessary. That ‘songwriter ‘you were talking to, Leon, who is using ChatGPT to write ‘his’ lyrics because it is ‘faster and easier ,’is participating in this erosion of the world’s soul and the spirit of humanity itself and, to put…
Others will feel differently, and that's ok. I find myself not even mad at such florid proclamations as to the death of the human spirit. Such sanctimonious proclamations were made by portrait artists at the advent of photography as well, and yet here we are, Art intact, all these decades later.
I recall a famous songwriter, unfortunately I cannot remember their name to prove this, who used free association word games to write songs. Because nonsense lyrics have helped propel otherwise mediocre songs to commercial success.
He would write songs just by putting down words, free associating those words, until he had something that sounded interesting or cool. That is not how writing has worked, historically. It's pure nonsense.
Then to go further all of the groups of songwriters who write silly pop tunes and lyrics by using mathematical systems and trying to ride vibes and trends they see others doing.
This idea of AI somehow destroying the purity of art would have made sense maybe in the 1950s, but not today. This guy is playing some kind of game because he does not like AI, it's as simple as that.
But don't claim the lyrics as yours.
Perhaps even legal rights (owning things for themselves, starting a business, voting rights?).
So? A new 'person' was created. Happens all the time.
From the article: > ChatGPT is fast-tracking the commodification of the human spirit by mechanising the imagination. It renders our participation in the act of creation as valueless and unnecessary. That ‘songwriter ‘you were talking to, Leon, who is using ChatGPT to write ‘his’ lyrics because it is ‘faster and easier ,’is participating in this erosion of the world’s soul and the spirit of humanity itself and, to put…
In my head, I keep making this comparison to photography. I like to take pictures. Usually, I take many, many -- hundreds -- of pictures for a project and I'll find one or two that I like most in that bunch. I think this is a pretty common practice in photography, euphemistically referred to as portfolio editing. I see a strong analogy between portfolio editing and operation of AI like ChatGPT. The camera and the AI…