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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by cornercasechase »

iraqmtpizza wrote: post #267
cornercasechase wrote: post #90

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The “year of the desktop” implies a solution for consumers, not professionals. That being said for almost every other kind of development Linux is by far the best platform. I cannot develop on Mac anymore due to Apple making things more difficult in every update.

Package managers are useless for getting the latest maven, gradle, or ant version. This in combination with there being multiple poorly-documented ways to set environment variables and there being no GUI for any of them means that setting up for Java development is massively worse than Windows the instant you step outside of your IDE.

I’m sure the versions in AUR are up to date.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by joshspankit »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #359
okanat wrote: post #223

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Mac has never been power user friendly.

> never Oh, yes it was. The Macintosh was once a platform for independent professionals and small businesses to build their own software using native tooling. The add-in cards you could buy for the Apple II would shock you in today's anti-consumer ownership war being waged by vendors.

I’d say it’s actually been power-user friendly 3 times:

1. The Apple II

2. Late 80s/early 90s when screen savers and [I can’t remember the name. Something makes me want to say ‘shell extensions’? small apps that made deep and wondrous tweaks to the system] were allowed to experiment with almost complete freedom

3. OSX. The first version was specifically designed for power users who had existing Unix/Linux skills. Special shout-out to some of the early tools as well: Automator, Quartz Composer, Audio Unit Lab, and even Applescript.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

pdntspa wrote: post #355
iraqmtpizza wrote: post #342

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So what happens if you accidentally delete the comment in the text config? There's a parser that generates an error and recovers from there? Or it's just gone? LOL. Do you know how annoying it is to have to go into etc/netbeans.conf, scroll all the way down, then find the JDK path from somewhere else and paste it in the quotes after netbeans_jdkhome= just to get Netbeans to run? That's not computing zen! It's the rea…

LUG = Linux User's Group? That's more of a fan club... If you accidentally delete the comments you can usually look the file up online, sometimes even just googling the name of the file will do the trick. Sometimes there's a default or template sitting right next to the file in its folder. And I don't think you're going to find any arguments against your experience with Netbeans, at last recently. It's old software.…

I believe Ubuntu came out 18 years ago. Almost as old as Netbeans. Much of the user-facing commands date back to 1973.

>can't you just `echo $JDK_HOME` and paste that output into your config?

Yes, but every time I download a new version of Netbeans this has to be done again. I only use Netbeans to make sure my project works there, so a significant percentage of my experience is the annoying 30 seconds of telling it where the JDK is (which if they put in any effort they could do in a startup dialog).

>One man's intuitive is another man's pain in the ass.

Press 1 for English. Press 1 for QWERTY. Press 1 for GUI. It would be nice if there were Press 1 for GUI! It's up to the user to hack his OS with shady third-party hobby projects to get a GUI for basic functionality like entering key value pairs. Why don't webpages force users to enter "last_name=Jones;\nfirst_name=Bobby" when filling out forms? It's clearly so much better than boxes! The world has moved on for a reason. 1971 was the year of the nix desktop when chmod came out.

I quit Android development because I hate phones and I'd quit Linux development too if I ever was dumb enough to start because it's a bunch of unproductive hobbyists trying to make everyone's OS into vim. And I'm on Windows 10 as always. Which is very customizable. And not in the dwarf fortress way like linux and bsd.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by joshspankit »

sukruh wrote: post #141
Workaccount2 wrote: post #96

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The worst thing about linux is that it is made an maintained by people who like linux. I would love more than anything to see a paid fork of linux whose goal was to make a power user friendly user OS that never needs to pull up a CLI. People will come out of woodwork here to suggest whatever shitty half-assed CLI wrapper enviroment. No. No. No. They suck. I have been using them on and off for 20 years. Including righ…

FWIW ChatGPT is pretty good in generating the specific Bash incantations you need to perform if you describe what you want to do in plain English and don't forget to add the specific version of the OS you're using. Unless what you're trying to do is pretty advanced and would be cumbersome in any other OS as well. Learning specific API's are over. Mostly.

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted.

I think you’re currently right and will be even more right in a year or two.

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Post by joshspankit »

anotherhue wrote: post #158
sph wrote: post #98

We need a new rule for tech, that says "Any major tech conglomerate grows until their main source of revenue is tracking and telemetry." Why the fuck does Intel need to know "the category of websites I visit, but not the URL themselves"? Who defines the categories? We all know that metadata is at this point as important as data. Stallman was right.

> We need a new rule for tech, that says "Any major tech conglomerate grows until their main source of revenue is tracking and telemetry." The "Don't be evil" rule.

You mean because that was stricken from Google’s corporate values once they were big enough that two of their main sources of revenue were tracking and telemetry?

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

Tmpod wrote: post #364
iraqmtpizza wrote: post #348

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did you have to enter some magic string like ppa:chien that literally no one would ever know

I'd say they use a rolling release distro like Arch or similar, where packages are updated very often. In fact, I believe Arch even has a tool to seamlessly manage multiple Java installations.

Maybe in 2054 Debian will figure out how to update packages.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by joshspankit »

erwincoumans wrote: post #156
hef19898 wrote: post #120

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Linux is great! And, thanks to Steam, a lot of games wirk as well. Not all, but most. Ubuntu, I haven't tried anything else so far, is a charm on Lenovo hardware. Update wise, it is were Windows was a couple of years ago. Meaning there are random updates that just kill and break certain functions. Happened last week, everything was running fine, including steam, as it always did. Until an update managed to delete the…

It would be great if Linux had some automatic checkpoints so you can revert to a working system after an update. So many times updates leave a broken system and re-install Ubuntu from scratch is quicker than fixing the problem.

Once NixOS is desktop-ready you’ll have a way more powerful checkpoint system

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

qwytw wrote: post #305
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #117

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Power users require CLI on every OS. Not just Linux, but also Windows or OSX, to be specific.

Especially macOS. Generally I feel like it's way easier to avoid the terminal on Linux since there are GUI apps for most stuff.

Yep, the difference between the Ubuntu experience and the Mac experience is stark. Also when the time comes to do power user stuff, macOS has many differences from Linux that have not been translated to documentation well, basically issues there are less Googleable.

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Post by StimDeck »

bee_rider wrote: post #157
hef19898 wrote: post #120

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Linux is great! And, thanks to Steam, a lot of games wirk as well. Not all, but most. Ubuntu, I haven't tried anything else so far, is a charm on Lenovo hardware. Update wise, it is were Windows was a couple of years ago. Meaning there are random updates that just kill and break certain functions. Happened last week, everything was running fine, including steam, as it always did. Until an update managed to delete the…

It is unfortunate that people recommended Ubuntu as a starting distro for so long. It does too much. It will update things for you, or give you a pop-up to tell you to update. Updates happen all at once, rather than a little at a time, so you get these big dramatic updates with combinatorial bug explosions. Maybe the repos will be gone if you don’t update in time. Maybe your favorite packages have moved from apt to s…

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by x86x87 »

SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #341
x86x87 wrote: post #126

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This is not surprising. Intel did things like ME in the past. The days where you bought the hardware and had full control over it are long gone imho

They're still doing ME are they not?

Did they ever stop?
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