Live data from Hacker News

PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

techpowerup.com

91–100 of 424 posts

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#91
post #2

> Intel CIP is functionally similar to the Telemetry component of the GeForce Software. NVIDIA's Telemetry is installed and enabled by default along with your GeForce graphics drivers, and you cannot opt out from it, as it does not even figure in the "custom" installer options. No idea what data Nvidia collects but this sounds even more shady.

DNS block:

events.gfe.nvidia.com lightstep.kaizen.nvidia.com

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#92
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everything works. ...if you're a software engineer. If you need Photoshop or Word or another industry standard software then you don't count.

> If you need Photoshop or Word or another industry standard software then you don't count. But you can always use GIMP, right?! OK, this was a bad joke.

You can use Krita! It’s legitimately very good.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you need Photoshop or Word or another industry standard software then you don't count. But you can always use GIMP, right?! OK, this was a bad joke.

To be fair this is adobe's fault. The only reason it isn't available on linux is because adobe goes to great technical and legal lengths to ensure it can't be. A VM with seamless windowing isn't a bad solution for running that kind of forcewear, compromising the whole host OS seems excessive.

I wonder if it would work under a vfio system.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#94
post #9

How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? For the record: I'm a graphics driver engineer myself.

They'll rationalize their behavior, just like most of us do. "All the other companies are already doing it", "No one cares about privacy", "It's not my decision", "We need this data to help the customers".

Well let's ask HN:

How many of us click accept on those annoying cookie dialogs or have an extension do it for them?

And how many take the time to find the reject button and/or install appropriate extensions that will do the rejection?

I'm in the second category but I'm sure the first one is the majority, mostly because they just don't care.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#95

Intel wants to provide the best computing experiences. To accomplish this, we would like your permission to collect, use, and combine information to understand: The categories of websites you visit, but not the URL itself Software usage: for example, frequency and duration of application usage such as Intel® Driver & Support Assistant, but not the application content itself such as specific actions or keyboard input.…

Wow ... that sounds a lot like Spyware.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#96
post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

The worst thing about linux is that it is made an maintained by people who like linux.

I would love more than anything to see a paid fork of linux whose goal was to make a power user friendly user OS that never needs to pull up a CLI.

People will come out of woodwork here to suggest whatever shitty half-assed CLI wrapper enviroment. No. No. No. They suck. I have been using them on and off for 20 years. Including right now.

I'm someone who does way more than email and youtube, but has less than zero interest in spending 6 months learning the nomenclature and structure of linux so I can become a proper user.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's not the reason Nvidia is doing it too, why should we believe this is the reason Intel is doing it? Truth is they're just greedy and they're doing it because they can. Edit for FirmwareBurner: I will, after you point out the part of my comment in which I claim that some F500 companies aren't greedy.

Please show me a F500 publicly listed company that isn't greedy. The way our capitalist economy functions and CEO compensations are set, encourages nothing but greed and short therm profits at the expense of everything else.

It's the pressure for growth. Who started this trend of rewarding shareholders through share price increase instead of dividends? Was it Apple? Some entity in an unrelated market 50 years before Apple?

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#98
We need a new rule for tech, that says "Any major tech conglomerate grows until their main source of revenue is tracking and telemetry."

Why the fuck does Intel need to know "the category of websites I visit, but not the URL themselves"? Who defines the categories? We all know that metadata is at this point as important as data.

Stallman was right.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you need Photoshop or Word or another industry standard software then you don't count. But you can always use GIMP, right?! OK, this was a bad joke.

To be fair this is adobe's fault. The only reason it isn't available on linux is because adobe goes to great technical and legal lengths to ensure it can't be. A VM with seamless windowing isn't a bad solution for running that kind of forcewear, compromising the whole host OS seems excessive.

> adobe goes to great technical and legal lengths to ensure it can't be

Could you elaborate? It was my impression they simply didn't care, but I never looked into it.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#100
post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

KDE is great but also very, very buggy. I'm using it since 2016 and some bugs just won't go away and good luck with openeing a bug report - nobody will care. Especially multi monitor support just isn't good. Multi window support is also, by default, not as good as Windows does it. Sicne a few updates I'm getting some polciykit errors everytime I'm doing anything session related just because - I have not found a solut…

Use Manjaro, KDE focused arch linuxes, they have latest KDE , I am using KDE dedicated Linuxes ( Gentoo, arch) and past 5 years is a blast for KDE. Much stable.for WM I am using QTile because it have best tiling wm that works with KDE application
Post reply on HN