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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by gattilorenz »

nottorp wrote: post #94
Contusion3532 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'll rationalize their behavior, just like most of us do. "All the other companies are already doing it", "No one cares about privacy", "It's not my decision", "We need this data to help the customers".

Well let's ask HN: How many of us click accept on those annoying cookie dialogs or have an extension do it for them? And how many take the time to find the reject button and/or install appropriate extensions that will do the rejection? I'm in the second category but I'm sure the first one is the majority, mostly because they just don't care.

I don’t, not anymore. I use the annoyance lists for uBlock origin, click on “deny” on smaller sites, use the AdNauseam browser extension on every desktop browser to poison the wells of advertisers, switched to iOS from Android, installed LuLu on macOS and deny programs internet access if they don’t need it…

I was never particularly privacy conscious. I was “normal”. Now that my fucking GPU driver spies on me, I think I’m rightfully becoming slowly paranoid about it.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by [deleted] »

bacchusracine wrote: post #192
inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

>KDE gets better every week. As someone who has tried KDE off and on over the years since its version 2.0 release in SuSE Linux, and through various versions and distros since is there a fork that doesn't have twenty different configuration options in their own apps? I was most happy with Ubuntu's Gnome 2.x desktop and am currently using Mate Desktop these days to try to hold on to what I consider the best desktop an…

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by Bu11etmagnet »

iraqmtpizza wrote: post #257
o1y32 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everything just works No it doesn't. Every Linux desktop requires me to spend hours tweaking things or finding workarounds to make it usable for myself. Window management is horrible compared to other OS. Fractional scaling mostly doesn't work. The Pomodoro timer in the "Software" store is no longer maintained and doesn't work at all on the latest Gnome. (Windows 11 has it built-in). Even so, I have to live with ce…

meanwhile, .bashrc, .bash_login, .bash_profile, .profile, /etc/profile, and /etc/environment all still exist, are poorly documented, and if you want a GUI for them, you have to build it yourself.

There are plenty of GUIs for them, e.g. emacs, vim, nano, pico, joe, jed, etc.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

bacchusracine wrote: post #192
inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

>KDE gets better every week. As someone who has tried KDE off and on over the years since its version 2.0 release in SuSE Linux, and through various versions and distros since is there a fork that doesn't have twenty different configuration options in their own apps? I was most happy with Ubuntu's Gnome 2.x desktop and am currently using Mate Desktop these days to try to hold on to what I consider the best desktop an…

I have yet to use a linux desktop which has working drag-and-drop. When you drag a file or file path from the file explorer and drop into the command prompt, it's supposed to put the file path there. Also, I shouldn't have to hold down twelve modifier keys to move a file from one place to another. I should be able to drag a file to a segment of the file path in the file explorer and have it move to that directory level.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by Tactician_mark »

screamingninja wrote: post #124
Workaccount2 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst thing about linux is that it is made an maintained by people who like linux. I would love more than anything to see a paid fork of linux whose goal was to make a power user friendly user OS that never needs to pull up a CLI. People will come out of woodwork here to suggest whatever shitty half-assed CLI wrapper enviroment. No. No. No. They suck. I have been using them on and off for 20 years. Including righ…

Please correct me if I am wrong, but is this not a straw man argument? > spending 6 months learning the nomenclature and structure of linux > become a proper user Care to elaborate? My parents have been using Ubuntu successfully for over a decade now for "email and youtube". They do not even know what a CLI is. What are you trying to accomplish that does not work out of the box?

Absolutely agree. For most people, their entire OS is just now just a bootloader for their web browser. More and more I feel like downloading any program at all is treated like a "power user" task

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by sph »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #227
sph wrote: post #98

We need a new rule for tech, that says "Any major tech conglomerate grows until their main source of revenue is tracking and telemetry." Why the fuck does Intel need to know "the category of websites I visit, but not the URL themselves"? Who defines the categories? We all know that metadata is at this point as important as data. Stallman was right.

Not defending the opt-out thing, but they are probably talking about video-first sites -- NetFlix/YouTube/TikTok/whatever likely call for different performance optimizations than Reddit or HN or Facebook. And yes, Stallman was and is right about a great many things. He will be remembered with respect in the underground general-purpose computing scene of the not-too-distant future.

But we don't know that, do we? There might be a government-pushed category of websites that they monitor and report upstream for legal purposes [1]. You don't need 30 categories to know if I'm on a video-playing site or not. And you can monitor performance without knowing that I was on a website or not. They write the video decoding engine, it can tell them if it's not performing as expected, no matter if I was on "Social media site" or "Porn streaming site".

It is all bollocks. A smoke screen. A slippery slope. It starts with performance metrics and ends with selling user data for profit.

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1: I am wondering that if you know what category of website an anonymous user is visiting, and what time they open/close the tab, it should be possible for three-letter agencies to uniquely identify you and track you across the internet.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

blueflow wrote: post #265
iraqmtpizza wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

meanwhile, .bashrc, .bash_login, .bash_profile, .profile, /etc/profile, and /etc/environment all still exist, are poorly documented, and if you want a GUI for them, you have to build it yourself.

.bashrc, .bash_login, .bash_profile: bash(1) manpage .profile, /etc/profile is a mechanism from the bourne shell, so you would go sh(1) as long as its not bash again. Otherwise mksh(1) or dash(1). /etc/environment is pam_env(8)

As I said, poorly documented. In fact, there is no defensible reason why they all need to exist.

And I didn't understand anything you said after and including bourne shell. I don't know if Windows has any documentation for its environment variables program, but I have never needed documentation for it because it's not brain dead. It's a GUI. An interface which is self-documenting.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by blueflow »

iraqmtpizza wrote: post #277
blueflow wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.bashrc, .bash_login, .bash_profile: bash(1) manpage .profile, /etc/profile is a mechanism from the bourne shell, so you would go sh(1) as long as its not bash again. Otherwise mksh(1) or dash(1). /etc/environment is pam_env(8)

As I said, poorly documented. In fact, there is no defensible reason why they all need to exist. And I didn't understand anything you said after and including bourne shell. I don't know if Windows has any documentation for its environment variables program, but I have never needed documentation for it because it's not brain dead. It's a GUI. An interface which is self-documenting.

> An interface which is self-documenting.

I wanna see you find the right dialogue windows in the control panel.

Would you know how to enable/disable IPv6 from your head?

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by Y_Y »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #227
sph wrote: post #98

We need a new rule for tech, that says "Any major tech conglomerate grows until their main source of revenue is tracking and telemetry." Why the fuck does Intel need to know "the category of websites I visit, but not the URL themselves"? Who defines the categories? We all know that metadata is at this point as important as data. Stallman was right.

Not defending the opt-out thing, but they are probably talking about video-first sites -- NetFlix/YouTube/TikTok/whatever likely call for different performance optimizations than Reddit or HN or Facebook. And yes, Stallman was and is right about a great many things. He will be remembered with respect in the underground general-purpose computing scene of the not-too-distant future.

rms is only seventy, unless you have information to the contrary we should expect him to live another few years yet!

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by sleepingthom »

ceroxylon wrote: post #181
sleepingthom wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do VSTs not work on Linux? I'm not being obtuse, I am in a situation where I'm about to build a new PC for writing / recording music and I saw that Reaper is supported in Linux, but was not sure about VST plugin support.

Check out LMMS [0], I just found it yesterday to run VSTs, I normally stay away from them and just needed a minimal VST host for one I couldn't resist, and I was blown away at what it could do for free. Between that and the synth Surge XT [1] (another free and open source project), you can make any sound you would want to, and use either the sequencer on LMMS or an external hardware sequencer (yes, USB MIDI works, ev…

Thanks for the recommendation. Unfortunately I do mostly prog / metal stuff these days and while the occasional synth sound can be had for free, a lot of my sounds come from either Helix Native / Neural DSP for guitar / Kontakt for drums. I'll take a look at LMMS.
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