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Good luck to all those that have been trying to convince people to get off Zoom at $WORK (it's not that simple...). This should add some fuel to the fire.
We use it at work (20k plus employees) since before the pandemic and it has been awesome.
I understand that people are (rightfully) upset by these terms. This is the first post I've seen saying they're rejecting Zoom calls, but I've seen plenty of comments on HN over the last few days on this topic saying roughly the same. My question is: what are you doing for work where you can just decline any invitation that comes from a specific service? That's not realistic at all for most people. Is there a solutio…
I came directly to the comments to recommend Jitsi instead. Glad the author made the same early in the article.
If this were a limitation of a free plan, with a paid option offering higher bandwidth, that would be cool, but the only paid options they offer are app integrations starting at $100/mo for 300 users.
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I don't think it's reasonable that a SaaS should be able to train their AI on anything that is uploaded (if you're paying for the service). In fact, I don't think it's reasonable that they should even have access to view what you're uploading and sharing in private meetings. If neither of those were true, then they wouldn't have to worry about IP infringement.
Zoom End-to-End encryption should theoretically not allow Zoom to see any of the content no?
I understand that people are (rightfully) upset by these terms. This is the first post I've seen saying they're rejecting Zoom calls, but I've seen plenty of comments on HN over the last few days on this topic saying roughly the same. My question is: what are you doing for work where you can just decline any invitation that comes from a specific service? That's not realistic at all for most people. Is there a solutio…
Hi there, I'm the COO of Zoom. We currently do not use audio, video or chat content to train AI models and we would not do so without customer consent. Please see our blog https://blog.zoom.us/zooms-term-service-ai/
Could you please tell us what you do use? Uploaded files? Screenshots from screen sharing?
> Be indemnified by me if it turns out someone else owns the IP or has their rights infringed Does this mean Zoom expects their users to take on the legal burden if someone on a call uses a copyrighted image on a PowerPoint slide?
My problem as a coach is, everything else is bad. Google Meet video quality feels like the 90s, they optimize for traffic costs. MS Teams is not easily usable from a meeting URL, but quality is higher than Google Meet. Other offers are often unreliable or low quality. When working with a trainer for my language/pronunciation I also found out that many solutions have abysmal sound quality, Zoom is best by far.
Yep - we've tried most (and have teams and meet FREE). Jitsi - core functionality issues with video quality tied to network setups perhaps make it a no go. If you work with a lot of folks for short bits of time everyone knows how to get on and work a zoom call. Teams has weird permissions issues, consumer vs business teams, and is forced on so many people that they auto close it (reminds me a bit of the IE pushiness…
You can disable that default company wide and force people to manually add it if desired.
I understand that people are (rightfully) upset by these terms. This is the first post I've seen saying they're rejecting Zoom calls, but I've seen plenty of comments on HN over the last few days on this topic saying roughly the same. My question is: what are you doing for work where you can just decline any invitation that comes from a specific service? That's not realistic at all for most people. Is there a solutio…
The indemnification for IP is a standard term that exists in all SaaS terms. What it's saying is "if you upload copyrighted/infringing material to our service and someone sues us because of it, you have to pay our legal costs since we had nothing to do with it". This is a pretty reasonable thing, you're the one who uploaded the material, you're responsible for it, especially since zoom isn't checking/filtering what y…