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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Post by version_five »

CreRecombinase wrote: post #222
version_five wrote: post #47

To be fair, there's no way Microsoft isn't doing something worse with data from Teams. And the only reason google "products" exist is to mine data to sell ads. I can see how we'd expect better from a company focused on video chat, but it's not like any of their big competitors are actually treating your data respectfully.

That’s absolutely not true about Microsoft. They’re very clear about how they use your data. If they’re mining data in secret against their own terms that’s felonious criminal behavior.

> They’re very clear about how they use your data

You lost me there. Every day there seem to be new terms in new places about what they do. I have absolutely no idea if I've managed to find and turn off all the spying that they want to do, and even if I have I assume they still have terms that let them do what they want that they've opted me in to.

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Post by talldatethrow »

staunton wrote: post #170
gitfan86 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But seriously, it gets awkward when you can ask the model, "what is the likelihood that this project we are discussing is successful?" and the model responds "this project will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that the last three initiatives like this were cancelled and the current project manager appears to be disinterested earlier in the project than last time"

Just because the project wiļl most likely be cancelled doesn't necessarily mean one shouldn't work on it. It might, after all, not be cancelled.

Because every relationship I ever started has ended, means I should stop dating!

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Post by j45 »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #216
j45 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I hope the op just didn’t read that far.

hitting "search" in your browser and typing "artificial intelligence" doesn't really require reading the whole thing ;)

Seemed odd that there was so much details refuting it on the points prior to 10.4

Maybe its just a coincidence.

Or maybe it’s two angles perfectly coinciding.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Post by ebiester »

barbazoo wrote: post #166
CorpOverreach wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's useful. It's more of a large-scale broadcast situation. Think of large corporate town halls, town council meetings, etc.

At some point though why not just collect questions beforehand, record the whole thing and let people watch it on their own time. At that scale there'll be no interactivity during the meeting anyway.

You'd be surprised how much chat happens as a side channel. Further, collecting questions means that the presentation material would have to be out there first, and that misses the point of the town halls, where financials and other initiatives are often first presented to the larger organization.

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Post by infamousclyde »

account-5 wrote: post #102
albert_e wrote: post #63

At the scale of Zoom and MS Teams ... you could theoretically train an AI model that can autonomously conduct all meetings businesses ever need -- all day every day -- without any human ever needing to attend. So much productivity claimed back! GenAI provides the agenda, GenAI bots log in with a AI avatar and spout hallucinations, bots agree to disagree and setup a followup meeting next week after resolving fake cale…

And this continues even after the human race disappears. There's a dystopian sci-fi novel here somewhere.

"There Will Come Soft Rains", more or less.

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Post by evandale »

zxexz wrote: post #245
evandale wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why I'm back to torrenting. Cheaper and no ads just like the old days when I cut the cable cord. I'll admit I have a horrible setup and binge watching 12 random episodes of a new show in one day is a huge pain in the ass but I've decided that's a good thing!

Unfortunately that doesn’t work for things like meetings!

Yes, obviously it doesn't, I'm making a general observation.

I apologize for being off-topic.

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Post by evandale »

capableweb wrote: post #232
evandale wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why I'm back to torrenting. Cheaper and no ads just like the old days when I cut the cable cord. I'll admit I have a horrible setup and binge watching 12 random episodes of a new show in one day is a huge pain in the ass but I've decided that's a good thing!

It'd be amazing if I could torrent my co-workers so I could skip all those pesky ads they keep doing when we're sitting in remote meetings.

I'm sorry for making completely off-topic comments. I'll try to refrain from doing that in the future.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Post by kouru225 »

falcor84 wrote: post #247
albert_e wrote: post #63

At the scale of Zoom and MS Teams ... you could theoretically train an AI model that can autonomously conduct all meetings businesses ever need -- all day every day -- without any human ever needing to attend. So much productivity claimed back! GenAI provides the agenda, GenAI bots log in with a AI avatar and spout hallucinations, bots agree to disagree and setup a followup meeting next week after resolving fake cale…

This is actually something I've been thinking about a lot. Once we do have AGI, and it chooses to embark upon a large project, would it prefer to just do it all itself, or would it prefer to spawn independent agents to take responsibility for each part of the project, which would then need to periodically meet to coordinate? If the latter, I do expect something not too dissimilar from current office meetings. But if…

Ever since realizing how effective tree of thought prompting is, I’ve accepted the idea that AGI will actually be just a giant continuous conversation between tons of different personas that debate until consensus.
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