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Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as the paychecks aren't hallucinations I'm good with it.
I think that's the future with AGI - no more paychecks. What will happen when the cost of every service is zero since it's been delegated to machines?
'every' is pretty bold.
the group that is in trouble is those who bs lots, GPT Today can bs much better.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#203Thankfully nothing like this is in Jitsi Meet’s TOS: https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-terms-of-service/ It never ceases to amaze me how companies choose the worst software!
Section 4 of the Jitsi Meet ToS grants them similar rights. It's just with mushier language. > You give 8×8 (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works..., communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display, and distribute such content solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other…
Self-hosting Jitsi is the better option. Or BigBlueButton, and there are more self-hosted open-source Zoom alternatives.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#204At the scale of Zoom and MS Teams ... you could theoretically train an AI model that can autonomously conduct all meetings businesses ever need -- all day every day -- without any human ever needing to attend. So much productivity claimed back! GenAI provides the agenda, GenAI bots log in with a AI avatar and spout hallucinations, bots agree to disagree and setup a followup meeting next week after resolving fake cale…
I’m here for this timeline. Just let the bots argue infinitely, come to a nonsense conclusion, and then have management synthesize the summary with another bot that then feeds decisions that require more meetings.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#20510.2 … You agree that Zoom compiles and may compile Service Generated Data based on Customer Content and use of the Services and Software. You consent to Zoom’s access, use, collection, creation, modification, distribution, processing, sharing, maintenance, and storage of Service Generated Data for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law, including for the purpose of product and se…
Before that: > Customer Content does not include any telemetry data, product usage data, diagnostic data, and similar content or data that Zoom collects or generates in connection with your or your End Users’ use of the Services or Software (“Service Generated Data”). I could be wrong, but my take is that there is not all that much to see here
There is also a provision for letting them train AI on Customer Content (10.4: machine learning, artificial intelligence, training) so the distinction probably doesn't matter in this case?
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#206It seems to me that every ‘AI’ effort I see today utterly depends on circumventing or ignoring privacy.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#207Thankfully nothing like this is in Jitsi Meet’s TOS: https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-terms-of-service/ It never ceases to amaze me how companies choose the worst software!
Section 4 of the Jitsi Meet ToS grants them similar rights. It's just with mushier language. > You give 8×8 (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works..., communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display, and distribute such content solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other…
Wait, what is "the service" here?
As I understand it, it refers to using meet.jitsi.si, not "another service" someone might provide by downloading the Jitsi software and running it on their own server.
Please correct me if I'm wrong since this would give me cause to reconsider running a Jitsi server.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#208At the scale of Zoom and MS Teams ... you could theoretically train an AI model that can autonomously conduct all meetings businesses ever need -- all day every day -- without any human ever needing to attend. So much productivity claimed back! GenAI provides the agenda, GenAI bots log in with a AI avatar and spout hallucinations, bots agree to disagree and setup a followup meeting next week after resolving fake cale…
But seriously, it gets awkward when you can ask the model, "what is the likelihood that this project we are discussing is successful?" and the model responds "this project will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that the last three initiatives like this were cancelled and the current project manager appears to be disinterested earlier in the project than last time"
Haha, well said. Not to mention there weren't enough people to understand the coverage of required details and their impacts, or interested to do so.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#209Why not switch? I've had good experiences with competitors. I don't know if they're as nice for mass meetings instead of one-to-one or small groups, but at least for the chats I've had, there's never been any reason to go to Zoom. (I care more about spyware, privacy, and user sovereignty than AI training.)
I'd take Zoom over Teams any day. Multiple times lately Teams has completely crashed trying to view a screen share, and viewing a screen share has taken 3 attempts sometimes, or works then breaks if I maximize the window and the presenter has to stop and start /again/. Zoom never gave me these problems.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
And this continues even after the human race disappears. There's a dystopian sci-fi novel here somewhere.
Huge recommendation to play NieR and NieR:Automata :)
NieR was unsettling. What an interesting experience.
It is definitely a must play. Even if you play it on easy.