Have there been any strange geological events recently like volcanic eruptions that could have caused this?
Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
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Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#172The current sea temperature anomaly is extreme. You can see it plotted since 1980 here: https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ The dark black line that diverges in March is this year to date.
When you see a divergent year then you need to ask yourself did anything odd happen this year?
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#173The current sea temperature anomaly is extreme. You can see it plotted since 1980 here: https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ The dark black line that diverges in March is this year to date.
When you see a divergent year then you need to ask yourself did anything odd happen this year?
Or in past years, or in adjacent climate cells, etc.
Check the equations, there are lag terms .. heat transfers take time.
The factors here are increased insulation gases (CO2, methane, water vapor), decreased Saharan dust, decreased shading sulphates, changing swing of the ENSO cycle.
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I am saying that history is full of people saying "it's raining today, better not have kids so they don't die in the flood" and that has never been the right answer in retrospect.
There are multiple times that would have been the correct decision.
If your ancestors had made that "correct" decision, you'd be dead as in not existing.
So it sounds like they all made the right decision to procreate despite "reasons" not to.
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have a single source for this idea?
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/1... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record#/med... ] This is a few years old, but: https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/screenhunt... Often when I talk about climate cycles, it turns into I'm a climate change denier. I am not, I have been writing about climate change since the 90's. It's just not that this year, or next, are ind…
I read that if all of Antarctica melted it would raise 65m or so? And it seems unlikely Antartica would melt in a few hundred years?
Do you have a reference for 100m?
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have a single source for this idea?
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/1... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record#/med... ] This is a few years old, but: https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/screenhunt... Often when I talk about climate cycles, it turns into I'm a climate change denier. I am not, I have been writing about climate change since the 90's. It's just not that this year, or next, are ind…
i read that the moctezuma cycle killed us all yesterday, what do you think of that?
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#177I may not be an expert on this matter, but the reported 37°C anomaly in Coquimbo is nowhere seen in the general historical record https://weatherspark.com/h/s/25823/2023/3/Historical-Weather... . Although the climate warming is very real and serious, my opinion is that the article probably is too dramatic and exaggerates (if not manipulates) the facts.
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a 90s kid a remember peak oil. It was taught every where except in one class - economics. The teacher was adamant we would never run out of oil because as the supply dwindled the cost would go up and new oil or other forms of energy would be found. Makes perfect sense now but at the time this was not the norm. Economics ended up being my favorite class. Slightly related he also predicted the internet bubble collap…
Yes peak oil is a good example of predictions being wrong, it does not mean anything for other predictions of doom. Dire warnings about things going on in Europe in the 1930s proved to be very true and incredibly costly and horrible for most everyone and from talking to people that had to deal with the aftermath.
What if we are wrong?! we made the world better for nothing!
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m sure it was deeply unpleasant for my ancestors and I’m currently thinking the world may be up being way more unpleasant for my descendants than it was for me.
The point this sub thread is that people always had reason to suspect this and at all previous time it was an error.
... the adjective "Pollyannaish" and the noun "Pollyannaism" became popular terms for a personality type characterised by irrepressible optimism evident in the face of even the most adverse or discouraging of circumstances. It is sometimes used pejoratively, referring to someone whose optimism is excessive to the point of naïveté or refusing to accept the facts of an unfortunate situation.
Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief
#180I may not be an expert on this matter, but the reported 37°C anomaly in Coquimbo is nowhere seen in the general historical record https://weatherspark.com/h/s/25823/2023/3/Historical-Weather... . Although the climate warming is very real and serious, my opinion is that the article probably is too dramatic and exaggerates (if not manipulates) the facts.
>In the Coquimbo region, the mountain town of Vicuna reached a top of 37C, the Liceo Samuel Román Rojas weather station peaked at 35.4C and Monte Patricia reached 31.5C.
See the article didn't manipulate facts, you accidentally did. There's more than one weather sensor in the area.