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Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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It’s also ok to be completely sober. In general if someone tells you they are sober it’s not a great idea to suggest they have a drink on occasion.

Alcohol and caffeine are the only two drugs I can think of (okay, in some circles maybe cannabis too) where the response to "I cut this thing out of my life" is often "why?" or "you know you could still do a little?" One exercise to illustrate the ridiculousness and disrespect of phrases like that is to replace "alcohol" with "crack". "I don't do crack anymore" would basically never be responded to with "you know, yo…

>One exercise to illustrate the ridiculousness and disrespect of phrases like that is to replace "alcohol" with "crack".

Or replace it with "oxygen" and see how ridiculous it is to suggest absteining from it. See how bad analogies cut both ways?

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It’s also ok to be completely sober. In general if someone tells you they are sober it’s not a great idea to suggest they have a drink on occasion.

As I explain to people when I tell them I'm life-long sober, "My dad drank enough for the both of us."

That's a great line, think I'll use that! 父が私の分まで呑んじゃったので。

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Elite endurance athlete here. I definitely experience hangovers on the rare occasion that I drink. That said, was just on a cycling trip where one of the riders drank two bottles of wine to himself and was flying the next day. Might it be something about high vo2, not just "being an endurance athlete"?

I don't know. The guy I was talking about was Master of Sports (Russian) in skiing. It requires being at least 40th at the nation level. i have other anecdotes that supports theory that endurance training helps with alcohol metabolism.

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I've been three+ years sober, really can recommend. Life is much different now, things that used to be fun aren't anymore - but I'm making strong connections nevertheless.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

I get the humor but yes it is.

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I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I have been on the hunt for the past year in the mid-atlantic area of the US looking for Moosehead for example makes a Moosehead Light for the states at 4%, but they also offer Cracked Canoe which is only 3.2% but not sold in the states (available in the Canada, UK and Costa Rica of all places where I tried it).

What are you talking about? Almost all Pilsners and lagers, even from craft breweries come in under 4%

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Alcohol without the hangover? What an invention! Scientists are working on this. I mean, other scientists devote their lives to fighting cancer, AIDS, heart disease. These guys go, "No, I'm focusing on hangovers. Oh, sure, thousands of people are dying needlessly, but this, ptooey. That's gotta stop. You ever try and watch football the next day? It's almost impossible. I'm devoting my life to that."

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I have discovered that for me personally, taking magnesium before, during or shortly after having drinks greatly reduces hangovers. I typically get really strong headaches the day after from 2-3 drinks. If I take a 100mg magnesium supplement it is massively reduced. Alcohol depletes magnesium from your body so I guess it counters that.

One glass with each drink (get the water without ice, it’s easier to chug down) and then two or three full glasses before I go to bed. Haven’t had a hangover in 15 years.

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Alcohol without the hangover? What an invention! Scientists are working on this. I mean, other scientists devote their lives to fighting cancer, AIDS, heart disease. These guys go, "No, I'm focusing on hangovers. Oh, sure, thousands of people are dying needlessly, but this, ptooey. That's gotta stop. You ever try and watch football the next day? It's almost impossible. I'm devoting my life to that."

Most breakthroughs come from serendipitous discoveries. It’s counter productive to be critical in this way.

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There is a complete-seeming list of ingredients on the product purchase page at https://sentiaspirits.com/products/sentia-red-50cl-black-50c... I was also annoyed by the FAQ.

Do you know which of those would be the psycho-active substance for the purported buzz effect?

Many of the herbs included have mild effects on mood and the nervous system
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