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Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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Post by jrmg »

distortionfield wrote: post #34
bratgpttamer wrote: post #17

I read something a while back where the owner/CEO/VP/Head Brewer of Sam Adams, who was expected to go to certain beer/brewing events and basically have a beer with each vendor, would eat a packet of yeast beforehand. He claimed it allowed him to make his rounds and sample everyone's beer without getting drunk/hungover.

Whoa, I had never heard of this before but there seems to be something to this. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/07/10/327854051/al...

The article at that link seems to show there’s _not_ something to it - it doesn’t work.

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Post by AndyKelley »

nightfly wrote: post #153
miduil wrote: post #109

I've been three+ years sober, really can recommend. Life is much different now, things that used to be fun aren't anymore - but I'm making strong connections nevertheless.

What's not fun anymore?

* spending the evening playing video games that I've already spent a ton of hours on and am not getting any kind of new experience out of anymore

* hanging out at a bar and talking to intoxicated people

* house parties

In exchange, new things are fun:

* skateboarding

* learning Japanese

* building an arcade cabinet in my basement (I'm a software developer, very little experience with wood working and other hardware stuff)

* waking up in the morning and being excited for the day

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Post by balfirevic »

esquivalience wrote: post #168
predictabl3 wrote: post #131

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Yeah, four or five clicks and my BS meter is off the charts. Not even so much as a hint as to a keyword to Google for more research. :/ But also, I'm rather intrigued and am doing some more looking now... EDIT: I can't even tell what the difference between Sentia Red and Black are. I can't tell if one of them actually contains Alcarelle (Which is hard to research since that's GABA Labs' former name). Folks, this is n…

There is a complete-seeming list of ingredients on the product purchase page at https://sentiaspirits.com/products/sentia-red-50cl-black-50c... I was also annoyed by the FAQ.

Do you know which of those would be the psycho-active substance for the purported buzz effect?

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Post by rconti »

eterps wrote: post #24
bluefishinit wrote: post #4

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

> 3% or even 2.5% ales I am not familiar with those, can someone give some examples of these types of beers?

Freewheel Brewing here in the SF Bay Area (Redwood City, to be specific, 1 block from my house to be much more specific to many fewer people) specializes in cask ales. Many of their beers are in the 4% range, and I love being able to get beer in an imperial pint.

Their London Calling is 3.5%.

http://freewheelbrewing.com/?p=312

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Post by mvkel »

thesz wrote: post #151
mvkel wrote: post #141

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Elite endurance athlete here. I definitely experience hangovers on the rare occasion that I drink. That said, was just on a cycling trip where one of the riders drank two bottles of wine to himself and was flying the next day. Might it be something about high vo2, not just "being an endurance athlete"?

I don't know. The guy I was talking about was Master of Sports (Russian) in skiing. It requires being at least 40th at the nation level. i have other anecdotes that supports theory that endurance training helps with alcohol metabolism.

> Russian

Say no more :)

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Post by boppo1 »

blackguardx wrote: post #123
laurels-marts wrote: post #99

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> 3,5% is actually the maximum ABV you can get in supermarkets in Sweden by law. For anything higher ABV than that you need to go to the government-owned chain called Systembolaget Jesus that sounds terrible. I get the good intent I suppose but the hell..

It used to be the same in Colorado until recently. State law mandated only 3.2% alcohol by weight (~4.0% ABV) could be sold in grocery stores or consumed in state parks. It changed with a state-wide referendum. There is a theory that this law is why craft beer boomed in Colorado. It is easier for small breweries to sell beer through a mom & pop liquor store than a national chain grocery store. Folks were more used to…

Michigan is a liquor control state and also experienced a craft beer boom.

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Post by 13of40 »

bluefishinit wrote: post #4

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I visited the Dominican Republic several years ago, and at the all inclusive free beer stand people were getting glasses of 50% El Presidente pilsner and 50% soda water. To me that was a little bit alien, because it implies they like the taste of beer.

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Post by FpUser »

Arch-TK wrote: post #150
thisgoesnowhere wrote: post #143

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I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

I think most people who say "I've been X years sober" are usually recovering alcoholics (or almost alcoholics). In most cases (except the cases described above), alcoholism is something people are predisposed to. Some people get a high from the process of getting drunk (and stop feeling that high once they are no longer getting more drunk) these people are the ones who usually become alcoholics if they don't just dec…

I am sober for about 15 years already. Woke up one morning after a party and the thought came - why the fuck am I doing it? Alcohol was fun at first, later it became utterly boring. No more fun and occasional hangover. Also I've never developed taste for any spirits / wines. So I just stopped. well I may have drank half a glass 1 or 2 times a year during some those 15 years but do not really make anything put of it. I've not taken an oath ;)

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Post by lxe »

Arch-TK wrote: post #150
thisgoesnowhere wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

I think most people who say "I've been X years sober" are usually recovering alcoholics (or almost alcoholics). In most cases (except the cases described above), alcoholism is something people are predisposed to. Some people get a high from the process of getting drunk (and stop feeling that high once they are no longer getting more drunk) these people are the ones who usually become alcoholics if they don't just dec…

"alcoholic" is a loaded overused and archaic term. Just like any other health condition, alcohol use disorder, or AUD has a scale. The DSM has a handy guide that's super easy to diagnose where you are on the spectrum: https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/sites/default/files/DSMfact.pdf

There are people who haven't done anything inappropriate, dangerous, or illegal, yet have ended up in a severe health crisis because they were thinking "hey... I didn't quite reach the threshold of "alcoholic" so I can just continue the lifestyle".

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