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Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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Post by thumbuddy »

hash872 wrote: post #7

Wasn't synthetic alcohol part of the Star Trek mythos? It's been a long time since I've watched TNG but I seem to remember it was part of their world, at one point I have a vague memory of someone handing Picard a bottle of 'real' alcohol and him being amazed- 'this is the real stuff??' he asks? Or something to that effect. Maybe that's what Guinan was always serving at the Enterprise 'bar', synthetic alcohol. (Does…

So synthesized ethanol will be the same in every respect as purified naturally sourced ethanol except perhaps down to the balance of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen isotopes.

But yes startrek was/awesome regardless.

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Post by Helmut10001 »

bluefishinit wrote: post #4

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I really like Full Sail Session IPA, every time I visit the US I get some. Germany is really lacking behind this hole development, the beer is just very poor these days here.

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Post by dgb23 »

1ba9115454 wrote: post #10

I've switched to alcohol free beers. They're a bit sweeter but for me it's fine.

I like drinking a beer or two sometimes during the week. It’s tasty, cool and calming. Alcohol free beer is great for that.

However most alcohol free beers don’t taste nice. Takes a bit of shopping around to find a brand that doesn’t taste like Ovomaltine.

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Post by distortionfield »

bratgpttamer wrote: post #17

I read something a while back where the owner/CEO/VP/Head Brewer of Sam Adams, who was expected to go to certain beer/brewing events and basically have a beer with each vendor, would eat a packet of yeast beforehand. He claimed it allowed him to make his rounds and sample everyone's beer without getting drunk/hungover.

Whoa, I had never heard of this before but there seems to be something to this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/07/10/327854051/al...

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Post by thumbuddy »

bratgpttamer wrote: post #17

I read something a while back where the owner/CEO/VP/Head Brewer of Sam Adams, who was expected to go to certain beer/brewing events and basically have a beer with each vendor, would eat a packet of yeast beforehand. He claimed it allowed him to make his rounds and sample everyone's beer without getting drunk/hungover.

I can't imagine a mechanism where that's plausible, but it wouldn't be the first time I felt that way and was shown something surprising. He probably just built up a tolerance.

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Post by pr0zac »

SomeRndName11 wrote: post #16

Alcohol is the most boring psychoactive substance ever, even Benadryl is more fun. I really do not understand those who enjoy the experience.

You shouldn't assume the effects you get match those of other people. People experience different effects because of differences in brain/body chemistry and genetics. People that get "asian flush" for instance process alcohol in a way that results in more toxic metabolites thus making alcohol literally more poisonous and less enjoyable for them.

Holds true for other substances as well. My brother absolutely loves weed and finds it relaxing but I cannot use even a small amount without crippling levels of anxiety. Meanwhile anything that works on GABA (alcohol included) completely removes anxiety for me in a way that's so enjoyable I have to be careful with the whole class of substances. Because of a genetic quirk modafinil has little to no effect if I take it but I use prescribed amphetamines 3-5 days a week. Human bodies are complicated!

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Post by walthamstow »

bluefishinit wrote: post #4

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

Londoner here. These beers exist and are part of the historic English beer tradition but are few and far between in city pubs these days. Pubs have started to stock Radlers like Schofferhoffer which is my go to, or a half pint (284ml/~10oz) of a strong beer like IPA.

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Post by GordonS »

chasebank wrote: post #26
rdn wrote: post #18

Looks like a rebranding of GHB

I think you're right. I've always wondered why they don't water down GHB to be the equivalent of a low ABV drink. The only scary thing about GHB is its relative potency to volume. It's honestly a wonderful drug.

Didn't David Nutt suggest this several years back? I seem to recall hearing he was really trying to make a go of it too.

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Post by zaphod420 »

yawnbox wrote: post #22

Acetaldehyde (from consuming alcoholic beverages)(1) is a Group 1 carcinogen, along with things like Asbestos. Does it fix that? [1] https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/understanding-...

I've been taking zbiotic before drinking. It's a probiotic that eats the Acetaldehyde. It works surprisingly well!

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Post by quaffapint »

bluefishinit wrote: post #4

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I have been on the hunt for the past year in the mid-atlantic area of the US looking for Moosehead for example makes a Moosehead Light for the states at 4%, but they also offer Cracked Canoe which is only 3.2% but not sold in the states (available in the Canada, UK and Costa Rica of all places where I tried it).
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