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This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Keep in mind global warming also makes winters colder.

Does global warming cause summer hail storms & record cold temperatures in large regions as well?

Yeah, global warming isn't the greatest name.

If I crank up the wave generator in a wave pool, I would get both taller waves and shallower water. Cranking up the heat retaining gases in the atmosphere is going to make both weather extremes more likely.

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It may be ignorant or even insane, but this sort of thinking is also taken seriously in certain places, and even highly rewarded. William Nordhaus won the Nobel Prize for a model which predicts that if the planet warms by 6C - an extinction level event!! - GDP will only be reduced by 8.5%. Why? Because most high-value production happens indoors, where we have aircon. [1] [1] https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/sep/nobel-…

Why did such a flawed research win him a Nobel Prize? It's not like the Nobel Committee is made up of conservative politicians.

At first I thought this comment was a joke, but I see you made the GP comment so maybe serious (or just a good troll?).

In any case, yes, the Nobel Prize committee for Economics is made up of eminent economists, who are indeed probably best thought of as small-c conservative small-p politicians, rather than academics in the tradtional sense.

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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I've been thinking about how relief from the impacts of climate change will not be available for all. I was wondering if access to climate relief should be limited for people who denied climate change or supported climate change deniers. With past voting records, social media posts, etc, we should be able to figure that out for a large number of people. I think this would be very unpopular but if relief is limited how else do you decide? The only reason I became politically active 20 years ago was because of my concern about climate change and recognizing we needed leaders in place that would take appropriate action. That didn't happen in large part because of the types of people I debated against. Maybe those people shouldn't have the same access to relief as things get worse.

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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There were no precise instruments 120k years ago. The historical record used is a hodge podge of proxy data. Much modern temperature data was US centric. Also, there is controversy over the placement of temperature stations (e.g. on an urban heat island, next to an airport, near exhaust vents). Factors were added to temperature modesl (there were higher apples to apples temperature readings in the 1930s). Many region…

Scientists use tree rings, coral reefs and deep sea sediment cores to measure historical temperature from a long time ago. These methods are based on the principle that the growth and chemistry of these natural archives reflect the environmental conditions that they experienced. Tree rings show the annual variations in temperature and precipitation on land. Coral reefs show the sea surface temperature and salinity in…

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Mathematical models with curated inputs & ever changing factors are not extraordinary evidence.

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And a lot less population density. People in low-lying areas aren't going to be able to move to higher ground, because someone else already owns that ground.

And people think that ground can be owned now

Many animals 'think' it too. Grizzly bears come to mind.

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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There were no precise instruments 120k years ago. The historical record used is a hodge podge of proxy data. Much modern temperature data was US centric. Also, there is controversy over the placement of temperature stations (e.g. on an urban heat island, next to an airport, near exhaust vents). Factors were added to temperature modesl (there were higher apples to apples temperature readings in the 1930s). Many region…

Gish gallops are the sign of intellectual failure.

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It's the biblical rapture move along

it's the agnostic, post-Christian rapture, complete with agnostic, post-Christian original sin, agnostic, post-Christian dogmatic orthodoxy, and agnostic, post-Christian heresies. it's even got an agnostic, post-Christian priest class that wear agnostic, post-Christian vestments while doing agnostic, post-Christian holy work.

the only thing missing is agnostic, post-Christian salvation

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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You must be aware that dismissing very-overtly-obvious climate claims out of hand makes you sound very dubious, right? Super "merchants-of-doubt"y. The only way to deliver this opinion in a non-suspect way would be something like: "I'm aware that all metrics show it's the hottest month on record, and everyone is experiencing that everywhere, but ". Like, it is obvious in the last fifty years. Your argument is "well m…

The climate always changes. Always has & always will. No political movement, economic paradigm, or technology will make the climate static. The geomagnetic field fluctuations, Sun, the solar system's current cosmological coordinates, cosmological effects are too big of a driver of the climate. Geologically speaking, we have just left a mini-ice age. Our efforts are better invested in adjusting to these inevitable cha…

What if it’s all a hoax, and we create a better world for nothing?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Pett#/media/File%3AWhat...

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